Army Rangers vs Navy SEALs: Who would win in a one-on-one or squad-based fight?

[Akers]

Being in the AF I noticed a lot of guys... AF, Marines, Army and Navy... all wanted to pit each branch against each other. In the end we were all young and dumb trying to prove something. With age you will learn that no matter what branch and which job you have it means something to the country. If your driving a bus that gets Rangers back and forth to training your contributing to the mission. After you get out you will find that we are pretty much always forgotten, but we don't do it for recognition or because we want to get out and say we were a Seal or a Ranger, but rather to say we served our country (and that is branch agnostic).

[ShootinMedic]

I would whip all their *****es right here from my armchair!

[0351USMC]

I thought it was the Rangers who were top of the line in the Army? GBs a close second?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2001/09/green_berets_and_rangers_whats_the_difference.html

The Green Berets practice "unconventional warfare" in its many forms, according to the group's Web site. The Green Berets are organized into elite commando units, each consisting of 12 members, which conduct stealth raids and ambushes. In addition to direct combat, Green Berets are trained for guerrilla war, sabotage, and subversion. An aspiring Green Beret must serve about three years in the Army before applying. From there, he enters a two-yearlong "pipeline" before being assigned to an operational group. Every Green Beret must learn to speak a foreign language.





Army Rangers are light infantrymen that perform many of the same duties as the Green Berets--raids, ambushes, and airfield seizures "by land, by sea, or by air." Any 18-year-old male may apply to the Rangers when enlisting. The specialized training takes one and a half to two years. The first Ranger battalion was activated in Carrickfergus, Ireland, in 1942.





The elite and supersecret Delta Force handles counterterrorism assignments. Quartered in a remote section of Fort Bragg, the group culls the majority of its recruits--sometimes fewer than 50 per year--from the Rangers and the Green Berets

[mk3mitch]

Rangers are specialized light Infantry. You go 14 weeks of Infantry OSUT, 3 weeks at Airborne school, then 8 weeks at RASP. You are than an Army Ranger. SEAL's have way more training before they are given the title. But in a fight? Who knows ?

[dalriaden]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ifference.html
The Green Berets practice "unconventional warfare" in its many forms, according to the group's Web site. The Green Berets are organized into elite commando units, each consisting of 12 members, which conduct stealth raids and ambushes. In addition to direct combat, Green Berets are trained for guerrilla war, sabotage, and subversion. An aspiring Green Beret must serve about three years in the Army before applying. From there, he enters a two-yearlong "pipeline" before being assigned to an operational group. Every Green Beret must learn to speak a foreign language.

Bleh.
You can (or could as of 2003- ?) Enter for the 18xray program straight out of high school. Green Berets are nothing like Navy Seals. While they do train in light infantry tactics, HALO/HAHO/blahblahblah, their mission is completely different. Their main job is to go in, train local militia/insurgents who in turn, turn around and train more. This is why they're known as force multipliers. This is why they were vital in linking up and working with Afghani Militia during the Afghanistan invasion. Yeah they can also do ambushes/raids/whatever. Look at SOG in Vietnam, but even then it was 3 american's with a montagnard or Yung(i think) team.

Army Rangers are light infantrymen that perform many of the same duties as the Green Berets--raids, ambushes, and airfield seizures "by land, by sea, or by air." Any 18-year-old male may apply to the Rangers when enlisting. The specialized training takes one and a half to two years. The first Ranger battalion was activated in Carrickfergus, Ireland, in 1942.

Supposedly each battalion gets as much funding as the 82nd airborne division but I don't know if thats true. I'd still put my old B-Co 3/505 PIR up against any ranger company and expect a draw. They do have SCUBA teams, and a few other cool guy stuff we didn't since they fall under SOCOM now. Airfield seizures are also a key job of the 82nd Airborne and 173rd Airborne.
Battalion does a lot of missions with CAG pulling security while they take down buildings.

The elite and supersecret Delta Force handles counterterrorism assignments. Quartered in a remote section of Fort Bragg, the group culls the majority of its recruits--sometimes fewer than 50 per year--from the Rangers and the Green Berets

Not really much to add there, other then my battalion had a kid pass selection at 21 I think it was. I believe he had to go through the Green Beeny training pipeline first though because they wanted him to mature, but got to skip selection.

[PatientCone]

Air Force Special Air Operations...

PJs would just have to come and save them both

[Wickedflava]

a team of navy seabeas and 1 army reserve cook..... & a national guard pay clerk for the win.

[himurax13]

a team of navy seabeas and 1 army reserve cook..... & a national guard pay clerk for the win.

Don't you mean a squad of water purification national guard guys FTW?

[submaniac]

[QUOTE=Gryff;7587728]Jeez, that's easy....Ventura.

Chuck Norris has never carried a mini-gun (not to mention graduating from BUD/S).




Ventura? Really?!?! Are you aware that that underneath Chuck Norris's beard there is no chin, just another fist? Did you know that when Chuck Norris does push ups, he is really pushing down the Earth? Were you aware that there is no evolution, just creatures that Chuck Norris has allowed to live?

[epilepticninja]

Gay

Exactly.

[killathrilla]

Chuck my brothas..all the way!!!
Other then that this thread is uber-dumb!!

[11Bforme]

As some of you may know, I will be enlisting in the Army by 2014 (When I am around 23-24), I am actively changing my diet and exercise routine so that I will be prepared for BCT.

But that aside...

I have been thinking about this match-up for quite a while, and I was surprised that the TV show "Deadliest Warrior" didn't do such a match-up on them head-to-head(They did the Rangers and SEALs against separate fighters though). And while I highly doubt the show's accuracy when it came to statistics and techniques, it definitely got me thinking...

If the US Army Rangers were to go up against the US Navy SEALs in either a one-on-one or squad-based fight in which there were almost no restrictions as to what weapons, vehicles, or equipment that could be deployed. The only exceptions are heavy armor (M1A2 tanks, light armor such as the Bradley is OK), fast-mover support (Jets) bona-fide WMDs (Nukes, ICBMs etc. the big stuff).

Who would come out on top? Or would it be too close to call considering they are both Special Operations groups and pretty much have equal training and adaptability?

Both can operate on any terrain, any body of water, any airspace (Though the SEALs are heavily water based as far as their training goes from what I've seen).

Both can deploy within a very short period of time to almost any location on the planet.

Both are 2 of the finest groups of warriors this world will ever know.




Your thoughts?

When you get into the Army ask the first guy with a Tan Beret you see.

[RMP91]

When you get into the Army ask the first guy with a Tan Beret you see.

I'm not sure if it'll be safe to do that...

Sounds like suicide.

[Jason.lee740]

Rangers VS SEALs?

You guys are making this way too complicated.

The answer is who ever has the element of surprise.

Think about it, they are equally good at their jobs and there are so many variables to account for.

But if a squad were waiting in near ambush with 240b's and claymores then the other squad would lose no matter how skilled they are.

*click *click BOOM!!! with a hellstorm of 7.62mm to finish off what's left.

Nobody would survive that mad minute.

[SoCal_Sapper]

I still get a kick out of this video heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOKhwcWEYlw