MEPS

[tacticalcity]

Yeah. Of course the NG recruiter made it sound like it happens all the time.
But the AD recruiters have told me it is pretty damn hard.



Why is that? No one has ever been able to tell me why definitively.
It seems to me if you take a guy who has been an 0311 in the Marine Corps for 12 years and he wants to bring what he has learned there and apply it to the Army 11B's mission that it would be beneficial to everyone? Or maybe he wants to go SF/Rangers and because he has peaked in his career where he is and is ready for the next thing?
Or even a guy who was in the Navy, but wants to join the Army after he gets out.
At least he is familiar with chain of command, drill, military life, etc.

Why is it so hard for you guys that are already in service to move around?

You are missing the point of MEPS. You think it is about making sure you are physically capable of serving. That is only a tiny part of it. Most the people who get rejected are more than capable of serving. They get denied because the government does not want to pay to treat their existing conditions.

It very much like an insurance company physical. The military does not want to take on people with serious medical conditions, because once they do they then become liable to provide that person with free medical care for life (if their income drops below a certain point and they are honorably discharged). That is a huge risk for them.

With prior military, they are already on the hook for their medical care. So now it becomes solely about making sure they are still physically able to serve, and document any injuries they received since seperating from service so that person cannot claim disability for them later.

It is mostly about the money. Which is fine. That makes perfect sense.

[kwest10]

The hard part is being shoulder to shoulder with 3 other guys

that gets easy.
I never thought you could fit 4 guys in a port-o-****ter who can all take care of business.
I know, I was the guy dropping a deuce while three went in the urinal

[Anchors]

The military is cutting down its budget and it's size, and the way the Army is doing that is by making it harder to get in and easier to get out... and the first thing to go is retraining prior service guys. The reasoning behind this is beyond me.

HOWEVER - If you are prior service and want in the --> Reserves <-- it is wide open for you guys.

This is beyond me... my personal train of thought on this isn't exactly in line with what we actually can and can't do with prior service guys.

I guess. I mean even guys who are about to end their enlistment and want to reup with a different branch.
Seems like it would be very important to keep them in.
So they are moving out of "war mode" then?
When do you think they will pull out of Afghanistan? (I'm pretty sure I read they are already trying to get out of Iraq for the most part, aside from enough people to keep it under control).

You are missing the point of MEPS. You think it is about making sure you are physically capable of serving. That is only a tiny part of it. Most the people who get rejected are more than capable of serving. They get denied because the government does not want to pay to treat their existing conditions.

It very much like an insurance company physical. The military does not want to take on people with serious medical conditions, because once they do they then become liable to provide that person with free medical care for life (if their income drops below a certain point and they are honorably discharged). That is a huge risk for them.

With prior military, they are already on the hook for their medical care. So now it becomes solely about making sure they are still physically able to serve, and document any injuries they received since seperating from service so that person cannot claim disability for them later.

It is mostly about the money. Which is fine. That makes perfect sense.

Yeah. My NG recruiter and I came to that conclusion too.
They just don't want people using the military as a personal ObamaCare.
Which is understandable from the military perspective. They have a budget. A large one, but still a budget.

that gets easy.
I never thought you could fit 4 guys in a port-o-****ter who can all take care of business.
I know, I was the guy dropping a deuce while three went in the urinal

I lived in a house with anywhere from 10-15 people, mostly dudes when I was younger (bunch of friends living together).
I can already handle that.
You've seen one, you've seen them all. As long as you aren't gazing at it haha.

[dls]

Re: Duck walk, they're also listening for your knees or ankles to snap crackle and pop.

At MEPS Fresno we had the "Dragon Lady" When it was check your cornhole time you had to bend and spread your legs. This one guy goes he bends and the dragon lady in her heavy accent starts saying no no u legs spread u legs. We all got yelled at for laughing.

[ghostrider]

Oakland MEPS 1985
Trucked in by my recruiter, all day process then stayed in a **** hotel by the airport and was
Shipped off to San Diego MCRD the next day
Was lucky enough to party with some girls that were going ito the Airforce and Navy
That was nice cause it's all swinging dicks for the next 3 months
Boot camp is a whole different story, so if your worried about privacy and being modest, check it at the door because they'll strip that from you once your off the bus and say Sir, yes Sir
Don't worry about MEPS go with the flow

[Zorrm]

Trucked in by my recruiter, all day process then stayed in a **** hotel by the airport and was
Shipped off to San Diego MCRD the next day

My job as a recruiter would be 1,000 times easier if we could just drop someone off at MEPS and they ship out the next day lol

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Hemorrhoids and hernias I think.

Yup...

In fact, when I went to MEPS for the first time, they diagnosed me with a hernia. I got to go to MEPS twice!!!

[Mr.Caketown]

Yup...

In fact, when I went to MEPS for the first time, they diagnosed me with a hernia. I got to go to MEPS twice!!!

twice... pssshh... the minimum is three times now. I think Im at 4 already

[CEDaytonaRydr]

twice... pssshh... the minimum is three times now. I think Im at 4 already

Slightly different for me. I was an ROTC cadet at the time. They treated us slightly better... (not much, though)

[bambam8d1]

What are the watching you pee and duck walk/leg kicks about?
Just curious.

As for the butthole thing,
I read that hemorrhoids aren't a DQ unless they are painful/cause bleeding.
But I am pretty sure checking out all your various junk is part of any physical.

the leg kicks are to make sure you're fit enough to fight tigers

[zeprider25]

the leg kicks are to make sure you're fit enough to fight tigers

only mandatory for the ranger exam.

I went twice, first time 4 days, 2nd time to swear in.

[Anchors]

the leg kicks are to make sure you're fit enough to fight tigers

Hahaha nice.
Have fun at Benning man. Good luck on the 18x.

[DocWalker68W]

twice... pssshh... the minimum is three times now. I think Im at 4 already

4, lucky you. I went 7 times.

1. Navy rejected me for my vision
2. Marine Corps rejected me for my vision
3. Coast Guard laughed at me and said you can't get in the Navy or Marine Corps and think you have a shot with us
4. Army National Guard rejected me for my vision
5. By this time I had memorized the snellen chart at MEPS and got in the Guard
6. Shipping to Fort Leonard for BCT
7. Shipping to Fort Sam Houston for AIT