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  • #16
    steelrain82
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3679

    What kind of cammies are they? If there commercial digital than go ahead if they have the Eagle, Globe , and Anchor on them than no. If they are the old school woodlands than go ahead as long as there is no insignia or name tapes on them.

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    • #17
      tacticalcity
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Aug 2006
      • 10782

      Originally posted by rromeo
      Yes, you may wear any uniform item as long as all insignia are removed.
      +1. This is what I understood the rules to be as well. But I was Air Force, not a Marine.

      That said, any clothes you can get dirty and ruin such as old cargo pants or khakis and a t-shirt are perfectly fine for "training". I try not to wear my old BDUs for that stuff, not that they would fit anymore but when they did I tried to avoid wearing them. Not entirely sure why. Just seemed wrong to me. The uniform is a sacred thing, too important to be worn for paintball or cleaning the yard. However, without insignia its not a uniform. So there is no dishonor there. Doing so just didn't really appeal to me. Probably because I took so much pride from wearing the uniform the way it was meant to be worn.

      Both the Army and the Marines have strict rules about the number of uniform items that can be worn intermixed with civilian closes. It is either 1 or none, I forget which. The USAF allows 2. You see lots of guys wearing combat boots with there jeans, especially back when I was in and our boots were black. This I did do, and often. They looked cool and those steel toe combat boots came in handy more than once while looking for trouble in some random town in the middle of nowhere. The second item was usually a DCU hat, if somewhere hotter than the sun like the Middle East or Africa, or more often than not a BDU t-shirt. Since I never liked the look of those t-shirts and wore commercially purchased black (and sometimes military green) t-shirts instead, I never really did that. Learned that both the Army and Marines frown on this practice while on a joint mission with them. Had sergeants from both chew me and my fellow air force guys out for it, until we pointed out we were not under their command and our regs are different. Respectfully of course.

      So wearing MARPATs or BDUs without insignia should be fine. However, if you start wearing the hat with them, blousing the legs, and pressing the damn thing so you could cut yourself on the pleats (something we did with BDUs but stopped doing with the new uniforms) that is a little poserish!
      Last edited by tacticalcity; 06-01-2010, 1:52 PM.

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      • #18
        Jason_2111
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 3830

        Originally posted by rromeo
        Yes, you may wear any uniform item as long as all insignia are removed.
        +1

        Without insignia and such, cammies are just clothes, no offense taken to a civilian wearing them.

        When you are on active duty... then they become uniform items that you can't just run around in. In the Marine Corps, you can't throw on a T-Shirt and cammie trousers to run to the grocery store... that's not allowed. If they are NON-issued variety cammies, you can probably get away with it, but you might look silly running around on base like that.
        Last edited by Jason_2111; 06-01-2010, 1:53 PM. Reason: (clarification)

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        • #19
          haiedras
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 556

          +1 I've worn my Desert MARPAT blouse at a carbine training course a few weeks ago, no rank insignia, but still had my nametapes sewed on. Had another guy at the course that was wearing a blouse that had never served, and we gave him a pretty good ribbing about it.

          At the end of the day, your intent is not to be an imposter, you should be fine.

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          • #20
            oakiepokie
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 94

            As a civilian you should be fine, but you'll never blend in, since merely wearing a Marine uniform doesn't make you one... Oh, BTW, if you decide to attend OCS never quit, never... You don't get a second chance.

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            • #21
              MRX9989
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 282

              I don't believe there is any law prohibiting civilians from wearing military uniforms regardless if the uniform has patches, name, service branch, etc. That being said, it's against the law to impersonate a member of the military. I guess it's kind of a gray area, but I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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              • #22
                chris
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2006
                • 19447

                Originally posted by VictorFranko
                To the OP:
                Train like you expect to fight for your life.
                If you want to bet your life on a pair of swim trunks, a wife beater t-shirt and sandals, that's your choice, train that way.
                Me? I train with the equipment I think will save me and mine.
                It's not about the color or camo pattern, it's about the benefit your choice of clothing and equipment will give you.
                ^^^ agreee i will wear what i will wear in combat train like you fight is what i have been taught since day 1 in the Army. but as long as you don't have any patches on you are good to go. nametag is allowed on Army uniforms as the US ARMY is off. but i wear my kit and uniform with no patches even though i'm in the service. but i train like i fight.
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                • #23
                  windrider
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 482

                  even if they have the ega on them as long as you wear them without any rank insignia your fine, I wear my old stuff all the time, I just took my old chevrons and put them under the pocket flap so I still have them on there just hiding

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                  • #24
                    Marxman
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 453

                    I appreciate the responses. I feel a lot better about the subject now.

                    Tacticalcity: I plan on blousing/pressing the uniform only to attempt to get used to regulation and to respect the uniform, should I just let it be?

                    Okiepokie: If it kills me I will get through OCS, and (as cliche as it sounds) I'm prepared to push myself harder than I ever have to pass. If the worst case scenario happens, though, I'll simply enlist. Either way I will be happy. Additionally I don't want to 'blend in' as I'm going to a private range with nobody around, and I'm not going to wear them any time other than running drills/training.
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                    • #25
                      dribbler
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 618

                      Originally posted by Marxman
                      I appreciate the responses. I feel a lot better about the subject now.

                      Tacticalcity: I plan on blousing/pressing the uniform only to attempt to get used to regulation and to respect the uniform, should I just let it be?

                      Okiepokie: If it kills me I will get through OCS, and (as cliche as it sounds) I'm prepared to push myself harder than I ever have to pass. If the worst case scenario happens, though, I'll simply enlist. Either way I will be happy. Additionally I don't want to 'blend in' as I'm going to a private range with nobody around, and I'm not going to wear them any time other than running drills/training.
                      just wear em. nobody will care if you dont have rank, insignia, nametapes or a regulation haircut. dont be nasty like the airforce or army and wear it out in town
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                      • #26
                        kermit315
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 5928

                        Originally posted by HskrVern
                        This ^^^^ I am not even a Marine and I wont buy the digi cammies for my father in law because of the EGA being apart of the actual pattern.
                        Doesnt matter. Rank and nametapes (specifically the US Marine nametape in this instance) being removed is all thats necessary to make it civilian legal. Go ahead and buy your father in law a set.

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                        • #27
                          chris
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 19447

                          Originally posted by dribbler
                          just wear em. nobody will care if you dont have rank, insignia, nametapes or a regulation haircut. dont be nasty like the Air Force or Army and wear it out in town
                          Fixed it for you.

                          and since it seems that Navy and Marines especially have very little respect for other branches of service with talk like this. i thought you Marines were better than that by belittleing and misspelling of branches of service they are names and require to be Capatilized in sentences. as you Marines cry and moan about Marine not being Capatilized you should return the same respect to other branches. by doing so you bring credit upon yourself and the Corps. but if you want to act like a child then go ahead. i also know that rank carries of from each branch, being a Staff Sergeant i get great respect from Marines from Iraq to Camp Pendleton only here on this board do Marines and Sailors disrespect other services. we are in a fight and that requires teamwork and solidarity no one branch will defeat the enemy we all will.

                          as my old 1rst Sergeant would say One Team One Fight!

                          carry on with the discussion of wear of the uniform. also i have found nothing in the Marine Corps regs regarding wear of the uniform inot be allowed in public.

                          i will close this with this statement. You are a Marine act like one not like a little boy.
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                          • #28
                            kermit315
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 5928

                            Originally posted by chris
                            Fixed it for you.

                            and since it seems that Navy and Marines especially have very little respect for other branches of service with talk like this. i thought you Marines were better than that by belittleing and misspelling of branches of service they are names and require to be Capatilized in sentences. as you Marines cry and moan about Marine not being Capatilized you should return the same respect to other branches. by doing so you bring credit upon yourself and the Corps. but if you want to act like a child then go ahead. i also know that rank carries of from each branch, being a Staff Sergeant i get great respect from Marines from Iraq to Camp Pendleton only here on this board do Marines and Sailors disrespect other services. we are in a fight and that requires teamwork and solidarity no one branch will defeat the enemy we all will.

                            as my old 1rst Sergeant would say One Team One Fight!

                            carry on with the discussion of wear of the uniform. also i have found nothing in the Marine Corps regs regarding wear of the uniform inot be allowed in public.

                            i will close this with this statement. You are a Marine act like one not like a little boy.
                            Why are you dragging Sailors into this? Did I miss something? Generally speaking, I see Sailors all over this board acting just fine.

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                            • #29
                              dribbler
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 618

                              Originally posted by chris
                              Fixed it for you.

                              and since it seems that Navy and Marines especially have very little respect for other branches of service with talk like this. i thought you Marines were better than that by belittleing and misspelling of branches of service they are names and require to be Capatilized in sentences. as you Marines cry and moan about Marine not being Capatilized you should return the same respect to other branches. by doing so you bring credit upon yourself and the Corps. but if you want to act like a child then go ahead. i also know that rank carries of from each branch, being a Staff Sergeant i get great respect from Marines from Iraq to Camp Pendleton only here on this board do Marines and Sailors disrespect other services. we are in a fight and that requires teamwork and solidarity no one branch will defeat the enemy we all will.

                              as my old 1rst Sergeant would say One Team One Fight!


                              carry on with the discussion of wear of the uniform. also i have found nothing in the Marine Corps regs regarding wear of the uniform inot be allowed in public.

                              i will close this with this statement. You are a Marine act like one not like a little boy.

                              sorry to upset you there staff sergeant. im sure the "teasing" isnt limited to the us though. and no, were not allowed to wear our utilities/cammies in public.
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                              • #30
                                chris
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 19447

                                Originally posted by dribbler
                                sorry to upset you there staff sergeant. im sure the "teasing" isnt limited to the us though. and no, were not allowed to wear our utilities/cammies in public.
                                not upset but disappointed at the way some are acting. we are professionals we should act like it.

                                i do agree that wearing the uniform is not really acceptable in all areas. i do see some soldiers mostly young ones wearing them at the mall and i kinda wonder why they are doing it. but it does'nt bother me that guys are in uniform at 7/11 or at burger king getting something to eat. that is not an issue at all.
                                Last edited by chris; 06-05-2010, 9:00 PM.
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