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  • #46
    wytwolf
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 206

    Hi fellas. Can any of you enlighten me on the 25E MOS. Currently looking at coming over to the Green Machine and will have to go 25E. Want to go 15W, but only acccepting prior service E-6 as 25E. Anything you can let me know(duty stations, advancement, job details, etc) would be appreciated. Thanks.
    "He who lives by the sword dies by the gun"

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    • #47
      develown
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 234

      Originally posted by wytwolf
      Hi fellas. Can any of you enlighten me on the 25E MOS. Currently looking at coming over to the Green Machine and will have to go 25E. Want to go 15W, but only acccepting prior service E-6 as 25E. Anything you can let me know(duty stations, advancement, job details, etc) would be appreciated. Thanks.
      First i would caution you against signing up, but if that's what you relay want to do, nothing i say is going to change that.

      I'm not an expert on either of these MOS's but ill give my 2 cents.

      with 25E, I can guarantee promotions are going to be slow. I just looked up the points for that MOS and their nearly maxed out, IE your probably going to be a junior soldier for a long time. Furthermore I imagine your duty station choice is going to be limited. You will probably only end up at combat arms bases (which usually are in the middle of no where). It also seems like an MOS with which your going to be in the field a lot. I don't know if you like camping and hunting and things like that, but going to the field in the army is not the same as camping on your own. Its usually very unpleasant to say the least. But, as a word of caution, i know very little about this MOS and i could be wrong about some of this.

      15W is a much better MOS. Your will probably make E-5 very easy, assuming your not a ****ty soldier. But E-6 looks like much more of a challenge. But, it seems like your not gonna get a lot of choice of duty stations. I have no idea where these guys go, but i bet you can count the options on your 5 fingers. But on the plus side, your gona get a lot of sleep and probably wont be in the field too much.

      Personally i think your recruiter is trying to screw you into filling a 25E slot. I'm confident there's other MOS's you can get besides 25e which are much better. It doesn't sound like a winner to me.
      SSG US ARMY

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      • #48
        Dekker
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1866

        Hey Devel, what are the points for 68W looking like?

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        • #49
          develown
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 234

          Originally posted by Dekker
          Hey Devel, what are the points for 68W looking like?
          Your gonna to be pretty competitive to make E-5, and E-6 lookin out of the question right now. E-5 points around 700 and E-6 is almost maxed out.

          Only about 6-7% of the eligibles for E-5s got picked up.

          But to be fair, promotions are hard to come by now a days, 68W isn't the only one affected. Its going to get better, but gonna take time. Gotta wait for some people to get out.
          SSG US ARMY

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          • #50
            goathead
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 3601

            go 13F points are always low

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            • #51
              goathead
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 3601

              Originally posted by wytwolf
              Hi fellas. Can any of you enlighten me on the 25E MOS. Currently looking at coming over to the Green Machine and will have to go 25E. Want to go 15W, but only acccepting prior service E-6 as 25E. Anything you can let me know(duty stations, advancement, job details, etc) would be appreciated. Thanks.
              Last edited by goathead; 05-11-2010, 8:30 PM.

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              • #52
                wytwolf
                Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 206

                Thanks Goat, I read that as well. Devel, I guess I didn't convey myself well, I'm already E-6 in the Navy. 25E is the only MOS prior service E-6 can fill. Well, we'll see what this week holds. 15W would be ideal, but have to wait for an outcall if I do it.
                "He who lives by the sword dies by the gun"

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                • #53
                  Tintreach
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 367

                  It was 15 college creds last time I checked (2003), but maybe it changed. You can take Dantes tests though I believe, but they aren't free. No wait time, no class time, just study and take it. Any org in the US will take Dantes for credits. Or take AMU, it's all online open book (pretty sure civies can attend, they'll take your money). If you can't pass you must read Braille.

                  Originally posted by The Director
                  Not a recruiter, but isn't getting a GED pretty easy? Or doesn't 20 college level credits count for a high school diploma?

                  Just trying to help.
                  Last edited by Tintreach; 05-17-2010, 4:38 PM.
                  All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation. ~John Adams

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                  • #54
                    shooterfpga
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2761

                    Originally posted by California Major
                    Army is not taking GEDs right now, and the Army National Guard is only taking GEDs with some college units, I believe it is 12 units
                    id have to agree, for the past several years atleast in my area, GED's have not been a suitable form of high school diploma alternative. no branch in my area will take you. as far as tattoos go, ask your recruiter what the current policy is, it changes as much as toilet paper rolls. i know the army was supposed to be implementing a new policy, that was supposed to take change effective this year, so another good reason to ask your recruiter.
                    U.S. Army Combat Engineer

                    Originally posted by Cactuscooler
                    I have Paramilitary training

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                    • #55
                      Bizcuits
                      In Memoriam
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 6957

                      Originally posted by DREADNOUGHT78
                      I was in your boat King Palm. I had no Diploma and no college. I went and saw an ARMY recruiter and he set me straight. He got me into a G.E.D. program and made no promises. I got my G.E.D. and went back to my recruiter. We then went and I took the ASVAB which has 2 passing scores. 30 for H.S. graduates and (if I recall correctly) 52 for non-graduates. I then scored a 57 (dont bag I was outta school for 15 years at this time). So at this point it took me a few months to get this far. So then his Sargent said I was overweight at the time I was 220 pounds and 5'8" tall. Also I have ALOT of tattoos nothing gang related mostly traditional western American art and I had to get a Pin-Up girl tattoo cover up done. NO-BOOBS in the ARMY some P.C. fem might find it offensive. So then comes the wiavers. Waivers for ALL of my tattoos and some of my Driving activities. So I lose the wight and make tape at the recruiters office get most of my paperwork taken care of and just needed to pay off the rest of my County of Sacramento fines (if you owe the County or the Feds.your a no-go). Also you cant be on probation of any kind. At this point it has been a year I am finally ready for MEPS and low and behold something else comes up time for more paperwork. Well long story short times changes the recruitment requirements have changed and now they require 15 College credits in order to be elligable for enlistment. And they have to be from a Tier 1 accredited college. No online crap it dont count. I have 4 units down and 11 to go. And then I MIGHT be good to go. Remember the Military don't want quitters. If you can't make it through the minimum schooling they require then they don't want you.
                      Damn, makes me feel better to know I'm not alone.

                      I needed two surgeries following my discharge in 2005 and in early 2009 I finally got cleared by my doc's following the surgeries. After getting cleared I went to every single branch. I was turned down, because everyone was fat dumb and happy, so of course no med waivers. A few recruiters didn't like my tattoo's... My only option was to either wait, try anyways and get dq'ed or go to college to accumulate 60 units, so I could try to get a commission through the guard. Apparently that was the only way to ensure I'd get the waivers I needed.

                      Fast forward to now and the guard is telling me the opposite.. Now they can get waivers for Enlisted, but recommended I don't waste my time with a commission, because it'd be easier for me to klept (Spelling?) but ironically, I still had to wait until this semester ended, because I was one unit shy of 15 I needed since I have a GED. Funny, because in 2005 my GED was fine.

                      Meeting with the SSgt tomorrow to drop off my medical records and take the Asvab again (Was told I need a minimum of a 50). Funny again, because in 2005 I got in with a 44.

                      They seem positive I'll get my med waivers, but it sucks because I've been told my MOS options are thin. At this point I do not care... I'll take whatever they give me, I'm happy to shovel **** until I can reclass.
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                      • #56
                        NiteQwill
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 6368

                        Originally posted by Dekker
                        Hey Devel, what are the points for 68W looking like?
                        Almost max.

                        I'm a 68WN3 and I maxed out on PT, awards, civilian education, and military education. I made the board but similar folks did not.

                        E7 is almost impossible. I'm commissioning by end of summer.

                        The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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                        • #57
                          Dekker
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1866

                          What's the attitude in the Army? Promote or GTFO? It's certainly going to be interesting when I leave for BCT and watch how it all unfolds.

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                          • #58
                            NiteQwill
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 6368

                            Originally posted by Dekker
                            What's the attitude in the Army? Promote or GTFO? It's certainly going to be interesting when I leave for BCT and watch how it all unfolds.
                            Simple. Don't be a dirtbag. Be a good Soldier. Meet and exceed standards. Volunteer for schools. Take care of Soldiers under you. Promotion is pretty easy depending on MOS.

                            The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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                            • #59
                              Dekker
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1866

                              *looks at 68W contract*

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                              • #60
                                NiteQwill
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 6368

                                Originally posted by Dekker
                                *looks at 68W contract*
                                Don't worry, it's the best job in the Army. Unless you're a dirtbag, you will learn a ton of stuff.

                                I recommend an ASI school on top of the PMOS.

                                FWIW, I promoted to E5 short of 3 years. E6 later on. And waiting for E7 or O2E currently (whichever comes first).

                                The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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