Basic training attrition rates.

[CavTrooper]

A serious Question here,
Is there different "Basic training" For Grunts and POG's?

Sorta.

The "cirriculum" is the same but the intensity is different. Its one of the major downsides of the Army being as large as it is, too many places doing the same thing differently.

In the Marine Corps youve got MCRD and Perris Island. In the Army youve got Ft Benning, Ft Knox, Ft Jackson, Ft Lenoard Wood and Ft Sill. All (supposedly) doing the same thing, with slightly different results. Combat Arms usually attends "one station unit training", which is where they go straight through basic and AIT with the same class, no break. Combat and service support will attend basic training then transition to an AIT cours which is usually alot less intense, similar to the way Marine Corps SOI is ran, with weeknds free and such .

[CavTrooper]

Fort Jackson. 1996 52c air conditioning. The hvac\r training was actually very good and got me a well paying job when I got out. Basic was a joke!!!!

We send females to Ft Jackson.

[Desert_Rat]

Thanks CavTrooper

[CavTrooper]

I'd say No. It's more of a niche service,being DOT and all.To tell you the truth I would have benefited from some sort of "in the Army now" Transitional training.Because the Army and the Marine Corps. are worlds apart,and not so much in a bad way.Just different.

I think most Marines that Ive met that have transitioned to the Army have felt the same way, especially the first few times they said "the fleet", "the head", "attention on deck" or asked another Soldier to scrub their back in the shower, ya know the typical Marine Corps stuff that you dont hear in the Army.

In your opinion, why do so many Marines leave the Corps for the Army? Ive asked that question to many people who have done that and have gotten the same answer from pretty much every one, so I wonder, whats your take?

[cgseanp1]

I think most Marines that Ive met that have transitioned to the Army have felt the same way, especially the first few times they said "the fleet", "the head", "attention on deck" or asked another Soldier to scrub their back in the shower, ya know the typical Marine Corps stuff that you dont hear in the Army.

In your opinion, why do so many Marines leave the Corps for the Army? Ive asked that question to many people who have done that and have gotten the same answer from pretty much every one, so I wonder, whats your take?

Wasn't he referring to your post about the Coast Guard?

[anthonyca]

We send females to Ft Jackson.

No one told me they were in the same units. In reception the males and females were seperated and it was like I thougt the army would be. I vividly remember being kept up all night and sitting in a class room. The sergent said don't tell me your going to kill your self because I don't give a &@;&, and he meant it.(he was talking to all of us, not me)

When we got to basic the intensity was ratcheted WAY down. Recently I met a guy on a job that was a generator mechanic in he army and went to fort jackson also. He said it was the biggest let down of his life.

[CavTrooper]

I'd say No. It's more of a niche service,being DOT and all.To tell you the truth I would have benefited from some sort of "in the Army now" Transitional training.Because the Army and the Marine Corps. are worlds apart,and not so much in a bad way.Just different.

Wasn't he referring to your post about the Coast Guard?

Try and keep up.

[cgseanp1]

Try and keep up.

Dang. I guess it's not true what they say about you army guys.. JK!

[Desert_Rat]

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QUOTE=CavTrooper;3274049]I think most Marines that Ive met that have transitioned to the Army have felt the same way, especially the first few times they said "the fleet", "the head", "attention on deck" or asked another Soldier to scrub their back in the shower, ya know the typical Marine Corps stuff that you dont hear in the Army. :eek

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LOL too much tv?

In your opinion, why do so many Marines leave the Corps for the Army? Ive asked that question to many people who have done that and have gotten the same answer from pretty much every one, so I wonder, whats your take?[

For Me,I was fine being out of the Corps.Until I met a Soldier who was in the local Guard unit at the P.O.S.T. training I was attending.I got to know this guy pretty good(scratching his back in the shower) He was always talking about the Guard,Then it happened,I started to miss it alittle.So I went to the unit armory and spoke with the 1st.Sgt. He was pretty cool so I "visited"during a drill weekend. then I joined up.The rest is History.So to answer Your question.I transitioned to the Army after the Corps.because The military was not out of me quite yet.and to tell you the truth,it still isn't
Had I stayed in I could be retireing in 5 years.

[CavTrooper]

I think thats another issue that effects the "image" of the Army. We have the National Guard wearing the same uniforms, patches and nametapes as Regular Army Soldiers. One weekend a month, two weeks a year Soldiers who are not always held to the same standard, who dont always have the same training, "representing" the Army. Thats something the Marine Corps doesnt have to deal with.

[Desert_Rat]

I loved to reply to My Army Company Commander with an "Aye Aye Skipper" when He would give direcion or orders.It frosted His arse.

[Desert_Rat]

I don't dissagree at all.
While on active duty in the Corps.I worked with some Reg.Army guys on a cross training type excersize.It was a great experience.They were squared the **** away!
X-training AAV's to M113's

[phroggunner]

Alot of folks ask about failing out of basic training/boot camp, but I never had any real numbers to go on. I looked tonight and found some numbers I thought were interesting.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/l/blbasicattrit.htm

US Army has the highest attrition rate in basic training, followed by the Navy, the Marine Corps and then the Air force.

So I guess if youre worried about basic training being too tough, you might wanna try the Marine Corps or the Air Force, seems that their basic training is the easiest to pass!

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the lower standards for recruits driven by high recruitment goals

[dwa]

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the lower standards for recruits driven by high recruitment goals

or that the army has more commitments than any other branch. but who cares right?

[steelrain82]

According to the Coast Gaurd recruiter I spoke with, anyone who joins will go through their boot camp/basic training regardless of thier prior service, does this mean that the Coast Guard is just as hard as the Marine Corps?

when i got out of the corps i was looking into joining the cg. i didnt cause the wifey had enough of my deployments. but the only thing i had to do was go to nj i believe for 2 weeks to learn the cg customs and rank structures and than to yorktown,va for training in the field i was interested in. no basic though. i would be allowed to keep my rank equivelant and upon completion of school id get promoted to the next rank.