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  • pjmeado
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 115

    Navy "IS" Rate

    Anyone here happen to have any experience in the Navy Intelligence Specialist rate? Specifically the NSW NEC? I have some questions. Thanks
  • #2
    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 22972

    It's an oxymoron, there is no "Navy Intelligence".
    Last edited by Fjold; 03-26-2009, 7:21 PM.
    Frank

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    • #3
      pjmeado
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 115

      Only people who say stuff like that are those who have no idea what intel does

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      • #4
        CavTrooper
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2007
        • 5944

        Originally posted by pjmeado
        Only people who say stuff like that are those who have no idea what intel does
        Might wanna check FJOLDs sigline... he MIGHT have a clue!

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        • #5
          pjmeado
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 115

          He might, but in my 10 years in the intel field, i've just heard that "joke" so much that it had gotten annoyingly old

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          • #6
            PonchoTA
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 2289

            Originally posted by pjmeado
            Only people who say stuff like that are those who have no idea what intel does
            +1


            As an EW, I got to work with lots of IS's over the years, learned a lot from the good ones! The IS's are "big picture" analysts, the ones that give the Admirals the analysis for world events at the Strategic level. The IS rating used to have one of the highest attrition rates too, so if you don't make it all the way through the school, don't feel bad.

            You could also look into the CT rates as well, "T"-branchers are the analysts, albeit on a much more local, smaller picture (Tactical) scale.

            If you DO go into that rate, and had any preconceptions about the previous administrations handling of the GWOT being poor, then I will bet that your mind will be changed after finding out more appropriate information.

            I did Tactical planning for 18 out of my 20 years in the Navy, with a few years on a carrier learning more about what the IS's did, what they looked for, how global events affected other global events, etc. My eyes are wide open, and I have a greater understanding on what our Defense leaders face when making decisions.

            Good luck to you!


            Paul
            EW1(SW/AW)
            USN, Ret.
            1981-2001

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            • #7
              pjmeado
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 115

              I'm actually moving over to the Navy reserve from the active Army. I know it sounds odd. I spend 9 years in the Army as an intel analyst and when I got out, picked up a job as Navy contractor, doing the same work. I'm just swapping services as a reservist since the Navy has many more opportunities here in CA than the Army does regarding the intel field. That being said, I'm not too worried about the attrition rate. I'm just trying to decide on what NEC I want to pick up. Leaning towards the NSW NEC. Thanks for the info Paul

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              • #8
                PonchoTA
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 2289

                I've had an app in for an Intel Analyst job with the Army (DoD) for a while now, working in Sierra Vista (Ft. Huachuca), but haven't heard anything yet.


                Good luck to ya!
                Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.")
                - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD

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                • #9
                  Mason McDuffie
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1102

                  I loved my squadrons IS. She was on top of everything. Didn't really know to much of what she did behind that locked door, but when she came out she was **** hot. 20g sign on bonus nowadays couldnt hurt your decision making.

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                  • #10
                    Fjold
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 22972

                    Originally posted by pjmeado
                    Only people who say stuff like that are those who have no idea what intel does
                    That's the problem with IS types, they don't live in the real world. They commonly have a hard time differentiating between truth, sarcasm and humor.








                    What's the difference between intelligence services and the Cub Scouts?



                    The Cub Scouts have adult supervision.
                    Frank

                    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




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                    • #11
                      pjmeado
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 115

                      PonchoTA, did you submit that app through CPOL? My last assignment in Virginia was at a science and technology center which was made up of mostly civilians. They all went throught the CPOL process and it took some of them a year from when they turned in their app until they were contacted. Also, have you ever been to Ft. Huachuca? I spent some time there and wasn't a big fan of the area. Do you have any EW experience? Pt. Mugu is uaually hiring, be it government civilian or contractor.

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                      • #12
                        pjmeado
                        Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 115

                        Actually I don't have a problem with that at all. It's just that that comment has been overused so much I wish people would actually come up with a little originality. You seem bitter towards intel, did they pee in your cheerios at some point?

                        Originally posted by Fjold
                        That's the problem with IS types, they don't live in the real world. They commonly have a hard time differentiating between truth, sarcasm and humor.








                        What's the difference between intelligence services and the Cub Scouts?



                        The Cub Scouts have adult supervision.
                        Last edited by pjmeado; 03-27-2009, 2:28 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Timberwolf
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 6275

                          Originally posted by pjmeado
                          Actually I don't have a problem with that at all. It's just that that comment has been overused so much I wish people would actually come up with a little originality.
                          Why reinvent the wheel when the underlying statement works just fine. Hate to say it but your post only bolstered Fjold's thinking . . .
                          I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

                          As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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                          • #14
                            pjmeado
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 115

                            Originally posted by Timberwolf
                            Why reinvent the wheel when the underlying statement works just fine. Hate to say it but your post only bolstered Fjold's thinking . . .
                            Yeah Timber, your probably right

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                              PonchoTA
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 2289

                              Originally posted by pjmeado
                              PonchoTA, did you submit that app through CPOL? My last assignment in Virginia was at a science and technology center which was made up of mostly civilians. They all went throught the CPOL process and it took some of them a year from when they turned in their app until they were contacted. Also, have you ever been to Ft. Huachuca? I spent some time there and wasn't a big fan of the area. Do you have any EW experience? Pt. Mugu is uaually hiring, be it government civilian or contractor.
                              I first applied thru USAJOBS where I found the posting. I have also applied thru the CPOL for what may be the same position!
                              I have a buddy that works there so I would have a friendly face down there (though he IS a liberal! ) Plus, Tucson's not too far away, and my dad would only be about 5 hrs drive away.

                              I'm just getting really tired of all the BS that Kali is pulling, and it's getting even worse. One of the jobs I REALLY wanted down there was as a Test Engineer for the EW lab down there with the Elex Proving Ground (EPG). Totally right up my alley.
                              On my Status page from CPOL, it says several times "Your resume has been forwarded to the Selecting Official for consideration for this position."

                              I've made a couple of certs for positions at Mugu, but nothing solid, no calls or anything. Evidently being NAVSEA instead of NAVAIR kind of cramps their opinion!

                              Oh well, I'm still plugging away. At least I get to shoot a big, cool gun!
                              Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.")
                              - Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD

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