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  • mikenewgun87
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2011
    • 7732

    Hey sargent, sarge, sarant, sergeant....

    Working on an Army base...with troops...every E5 gets address as Sergeant...

    Why the FRACK is that??!?!

    Coming from the Marines...I was taught to address them as their proper rank...only slight exception was gunny or master guns...

    This is amusing me that a SFC is still called Sergeant...

    Can someone explain???
  • #2
    tmy255
    Junior Member
    • May 2013
    • 50

    When I was in we called all the Sergeants by there ranks as in Staff,Sergeant First Class,ect from First Sergeant on up to Command Sergeant Major you had better not forget to address them by there pay grade.

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    • #3
      Random Picks
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 4

      Its how the Army customs and traditions works. E5- E7 (and E8 Master Sergeants) are informally referred to as Sergeant.

      It took me a bit to adjust when dealing with Marines, I apologized to a bunch of Staff Sergeants for just calling the Sergeant.

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      • #4
        AdorMe
        Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 152

        Isn't e-5 sergeant to begin with?
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        • #5
          Snoopy47
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 3842

          E5 SGT - addressed as SGT
          E6 SSG - addressed as SGT
          E7 SFC - addressed as SGT
          E8 MSG - addressed as MSG
          E8 1SG - addressed as 1SG or Top
          E9 SGM - addressed as SGM
          E9 CSM - addressed as SGM
          Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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          • #6
            ProMSL
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2017
            • 18

            its sarnt, firs-sarnt, or sarn-major unless you're in aviation, or spec ops. Then its dude, or their first name lol

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            • #7
              1SGMAT
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 673

              There are only 3 ways to address sergeants in the Army.
              Sergeant (E5 thru E8)
              First Sergeant (E8 with Diamond)
              Sergeant Major ( with or W/O reef)

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              • #8
                Calico1404
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 3401

                Originally posted by 1SGMAT
                There are only 3 ways to address sergeants in the Army.
                Sergeant (E5 thru E8)
                First Sergeant (E8 with Diamond)
                Sergeant Major ( with or W/O reef)
                ^^^This

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                • #9
                  mikenewgun87
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 7732

                  Originally posted by 1SGMAT
                  There are only 3 ways to address sergeants in the Army.
                  Sergeant (E5 thru E8)
                  First Sergeant (E8 with Diamond)
                  Sergeant Major ( with or W/O reef)
                  Ok, but why do specialist and corporal's get called their tank, not e4?

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                  • #10
                    Snoopy47
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3842

                    Originally posted by mikenewgun87
                    Ok, but why do specialist and corporal's get called their tank, not e4?
                    Since disbanding the higher SPC grades it is a recruiting tactic of the Army. No other service allows folks to enlist at the level of E4 (with a 4 year degree). It also allows those Jr enlisted to promote to SPC (E4) automatically pending they are good to go.

                    CPL is an actual NCO rank and is responsible for soldiers accordingly, and I've only seen it used to promote SPC to CPL because there wasn't any SGT slots open.

                    Years ago the army had SPC though E9 back in the Vietnam days. However, regardless of "grade" they still didn't technically have NCO authority.

                    So that causes a problem with a SGT E5 starts barking out orders to a SPC 7.
                    Which probably is why the ranking system didn't last. Plus there were more hoops to jump though the NCO grades than there was for the SPC grades.

                    So unmotivated soldiers would ride the SPC pay scale without the headaches of being an NCO.

                    Now only the SPC 4 is around, Army CPL's are few and far between for the conflicts rarely come up.
                    Last edited by Snoopy47; 03-24-2017, 12:47 PM.
                    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                    • #11
                      Snoopy47
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3842

                      Originally posted by mikenewgun87
                      Ok, but why do specialist and corporal's get called their tank, not e4?
                      Oh, and in basic training, the Drill SGTs would only bark out orders to the company as Privates. It was pretty great because I knew they couldn't be talking to me.
                      Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                      • #12
                        1SGMAT
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 673

                        Originally posted by mikenewgun87
                        Ok, but why do specialist and corporal's get called their tank, not e4?
                        Your original post seemed to be specifically geared towards Sergeants so I didn't elaborate.

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                        • #13
                          daedalus308
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 45

                          MSG are often addressed as "master sergeant" out of respect, but it is not required. And yes in the SOF world first names are frequently used. I was blessed with an incomprehensible last name, so it works out!

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                          • #14
                            epilepticninja
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4166

                            In the Air Force all NCO's are addressed as "Sergeant" with the exception of a Chief Master Sergeant who is addressed as "Chief." Over the last 10 years or so, Senior Master Sergeants have been unofficially addressed as "Senior." The Air Force came from the Army, so it sounds right that for the most part all the NCO ranks are addressed as "Sergeant." I'm guessing the exception is First Sergeant and Sergeant Major.
                            Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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                            • #15
                              scadvice
                              Member
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 348

                              Last edited by scadvice; 04-26-2017, 10:01 PM. Reason: syntax

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