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  • #16
    nick
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2008
    • 19151

    And a beltfed .30 is kinda heavy, especially when you factor in all the ammo.
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    • #17
      dwa
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 2452

      good points all around and im not sure where i feel on this what i was thinking is what if you could make a dm/iar that could be active in both roles. personally i dont like the m249 as a weapon but i fully understand what it is and agree with the concept
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      • #18
        nick
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2008
        • 19151

        Hey, my personal preference is an M24, but I don't think outfitting everybody with it would be a good idea. To each his own.

        By which, of course, I meant that M40A3 is my weapon of choice. When in Rome...
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        • #19

          Originally posted by MajorAR
          Moving away from a belt fed weapon is a move in the wrong direction....yes, i'm in the corps and in the infantry.
          +1 for that

          Although I never really cared for the saw mainly becuase of reliability. They need to replace it with a shorter version of the 240 or maybe even give them an m60.

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          • #20
            razorscs
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 417

            I like the saw because you can't have a faulty or crappy magazine mess with it and cause it to jam like I have had too many experiences with in my M16. But as it has been said before, good luck getting a SAW to shoot flawlessly with a m16 mag, but then again that should only be when **** really hits the fan.

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            • #21
              dwa
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 2452

              Originally posted by razorscs
              I like the saw because you can't have a faulty or crappy magazine mess with it and cause it to jam like I have had too many experiences with in my M16. But as it has been said before, good luck getting a SAW to shoot flawlessly with a m16 mag, but then again that should only be when **** really hits the fan.
              i don't really see an advantage to being able to fire mags through a saw. if your saw gunner is dry then most likely everyone else is black on ammo or near too it, the last thing you'd want to do is burn your remaining ammo through a high rate of fire weapon.
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              • #22
                L.A. Brigade
                Junior Member
                • May 2008
                • 32

                I'd stick with the SAW. We already have the 249E3 if people wanna get all wa-zoo and ninja about it.

                Just because the douchebags at futureweapons did a show on it, doesn't mean the IAR is a better weapon.



                I love the "expert" analysis...

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                • #23
                  dwa
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2452

                  Originally posted by L.A. Brigade
                  I'd stick with the SAW. We already have the 249E3 if people wanna get all wa-zoo and ninja about it.

                  Just because the douchebags at futureweapons did a show on it, doesn't mean the IAR is a better weapon.



                  I love the "expert" analysis...
                  lwrc isnt in the final four
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                  • #24
                    Pryde
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2506

                    The IAR idea is f**kin retarded.

                    The whole concept is to switch the SAWs out with the IAR at the squad/fireteam level and keep the M16s/M4s. The SAWs will still be retained in the armory and issued on demand.

                    What I can see happening as the most likely result of this ill planned idea is that the SAW gunners will still retain his SAWs and the rifleman will opt to drop the 16s and M4s and pick up the IAR for perceived additional firepower. What you will end up with is a whole sh*tload of rounds going downrange and not much being hit.

                    What needs to happen is to replace the aging SAW inventory with the FN Mk46 or Mk48 which is basically the SAW lightened and improved, but the Marine Corps in its infinite wisdom has chosen to go it alone and spend untold amounts of money on an unproven weapon system. Just like how we are still using the old M2 instead of the updated M2 that the Belgians have had for nearly 20 years which doesn't require complex headspacing and timing procedures.
                    Last edited by Pryde; 02-03-2009, 8:13 PM.

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                    • #25
                      dwa
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2452

                      Originally posted by Pryde
                      The IAR idea is f**kin retarded.

                      The whole concept is to switch the SAWs out with the IAR at the squad/fireteam level and keep the M16s/M4s. The SAWs will still be retained in the armory and issued on demand.

                      What I can see happening as the most likely result of this ill planned idea is that the SAW gunners will still retain his SAWs and the rifleman will opt to drop the 16s and M4s and pick up the IAR for perceived additional firepower. What you will end up with is a whole sh*tload of rounds going downrange and not much being hit.

                      What needs to happen is to replace the aging SAW inventory with the FN Mk46 or Mk48 which is basically the SAW lightened and improved, but the Marine Corps in its infinite wisdom has chosen to go it alone and spend untold amounts of money on an unproven weapon system. Just like how we are still using the old M2 instead of the updated M2 that the Belgians have had for nearly 20 years which doesn't require complex headspacing and timing procedures.
                      lol i was wondering. i read the requirement and it sounded promising but the final four candidates are rifles
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                      • #26
                        zeus45c
                        Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 457

                        Is having a round cook off in the chamber a normal occurrence and something that needs to be worried about in an automatic weapon? Mack mentioned that as one of the pro's in the video.

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                        • #27
                          Sleepnosis
                          Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 483

                          Zeus that is a great point. Cook off's in belt feds can be common, DO happen and are more dangerous.

                          My buddy lost the tip of his finger in training that way. Lifted the feed tray during a cook off. Tough lesson to learn.

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                          • #28
                            dwa
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 2452

                            Originally posted by Sleepnosis
                            Zeus that is a great point. Cook off's in belt feds can be common, DO happen and are more dangerous.

                            My buddy lost the tip of his finger in training that way. Lifted the feed tray during a cook off. Tough lesson to learn.
                            i believe they happen at a greater rate and are more severe in a closed bolt
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                            • #29
                              razorscs
                              Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 417

                              Originally posted by dwa
                              i don't really see an advantage to being able to fire mags through a saw. if your saw gunner is dry then most likely everyone else is black on ammo or near too it, the last thing you'd want to do is burn your remaining ammo through a high rate of fire weapon.
                              I didn't say there was an advantage to being able to do so. I said that the reason I like the saw is because it doesn't take mags that can cause jams due to faulty ones. A belt is very unlikely to have a flaw that will cause a jam.

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                              • #30
                                dwa
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 2452

                                Originally posted by razorscs
                                I didn't say there was an advantage to being able to do so. I said that the reason I like the saw is because it doesn't take mags that can cause jams due to faulty ones. A belt is very unlikely to have a flaw that will cause a jam.
                                i know i was talking about the theory of keeping you base of fire weapon rocking at all costs ie the ability to fire mags through the 249
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