hey marines

[dwa]

what is your guys opinion on the corps plan to move to the Infantry Automatic Rifle over the saw?

[AaronHorrocks]

I still don't understand why anyone wants a beltfed 5.56 to start with.

[6172crew]

I still don't understand why anyone wants a beltfed 5.56 to start with.

Keeps heads down, the SAW shot very fast and had 200 round mags. My only issue with the SAW was the gas that burned the eyes, you need to wear goggles to see what your target looks like after a short burst.

Seems to me the HK21E would be the way to go, I have family who has one and they dont seem to be as Marine proof but the fact that they can be used out to long range and in a few calibers is a great idea imo.

[dwa]

Keeps heads down, the SAW shot very fast and had 200 round mags. My only issue with the SAW was the gas that burned the eyes, you need to wear goggles to see what your target looks like after a short burst.

Seems to me the HK21E would be the way to go, I have family who has one and they dont seem to be as Marine proof but the fact that they can be used out to long range and in a few calibers is a great idea imo.

ya i like the hk 21 also, have you followed the iar program at all it seens its down to 2 colts an hk and an fn. lwrc and the ultimax got dropped but i was rooting for them but i kinda figured it would be one of the bigs boys. id like to see what magpul could put together if you asked them to enter the contract

[Sleepnosis]

If you've never had to lay down suppression, or rely on suppression to make movement, you may not understand the positives of any belt fed weapon.

28-30 rds of 5.56 will cut a man in half. 100 is good but 200 is even better. All without a magazine/drum change. And its capable of accepting any M16 magazine.

The SAW is a fine weapon and will definitely stay in use for a while.

[AaronHorrocks]

If you've never had to lay down suppression, or rely on suppression to make movement, you may not understand the positives of any belt fed weapon.

I hope that's not directed at me. I own several beltfeds!
5.56 is fine for a rifleman... I just think beltfeds should stick to the long trusted thirty-caliber range. It 'F's more 'S' up!

[dwa]

If you've never had to lay down suppression, or rely on suppression to make movement, you may not understand the positives of any belt fed weapon.

28-30 rds of 5.56 will cut a man in half. 100 is good but 200 is even better. All without a magazine/drum change. And its capable of accepting any M16 magazine.

The SAW is a fine weapon and will definitely stay in use for a while.

have you ever put a mag in a saw it makes sure you do 3 rd bursts

[MrSlippyFist]

I hope that's not directed at me. I own several beltfeds!
5.56 is fine for a rifleman... I just think beltfeds should stick to the long trusted thirty-caliber range. It 'F's more 'S' up!

+1!

[stphnman20]

The SAW is an awsome weapon!! Nuff said!

[MajorAR]

Moving away from a belt fed weapon is a move in the wrong direction....yes, i'm in the corps and in the infantry.

[Sleepnosis]

have you ever put a mag in a saw it makes sure you do 3 rd bursts

Its for the sake of noting advantages.

Belt-fed or magazine vs magazine.

28 round magazine from a IAR vs 28 rounds from a belt in a SAW. Same effect.

Yes you will have malfunctions caused by USGI's if you try to dump the magazine. It usually hiccuped on the 5th or 6th round.

[p7m8jg]

If you've never had to lay down suppression, or rely on suppression to make movement, you may not understand the positives of any belt fed weapon.

28-30 rds of 5.56 will cut a man in half. 100 is good but 200 is even better. All without a magazine/drum change. And its capable of accepting any M16 magazine.

The SAW is a fine weapon and will definitely stay in use for a while.

My son sure swears by his........

[The Soup Nazi]

The SAW is good to go once you have to run a 240B w/tripod back and forth from the parade deck and armory.

[usp45]

the saw is fine for post or maybe a vehicle but i'd take the iar anyday. saw can supress but if you just kill the target instead you don't need all those extra rounds. it gets heavy after carrying it for 8 hours.

[11Z50]

One must understand the theory of maneuver combat to understand the value of suppressive fire. The basic idea is that half of your force shoots, while the other half moves. The half that is shooting needs to put out the most massive amount of firepower that they can, since being shot at is a definite degrader of marksmanship for the bad guys. This may cause them to miss me and my boys while moving forward towards them. Once we get within hand grenade range, with enough of us left, we will win.

Ergo, if my buddy can put a 200 round belt in the face of my enemy, I am much more likely to succeed in my maneuver than if all he had to shoot was a few 30 rd mags. Believe me, a SAW can put 200 rds in your face out to 400 meters with no problem.