Is this guy for real?

[Snoopy47]

I'm leaving my judgement open.

As I said I inquired with "guardian of valor.com"

He provides documentation of some things but not all things. So while he has a picture of him in a field hospital he doesn't have a copy of a purple heart order (and he would have had SEVEN to use as an example).

A DD214 would clarify many things not documented.

I suspect since it looks like from my poking around he's be riding these Vietnam service coat tails ever since he got out he would be harder to call out since he's been the one providing the continuation of his documentation since the 70's and 80's.

As we know, there are currently already many fakers as members of the American Legion and VFW since guys were able to get membership years ago prior to being required to show proof as issued or the Department of Defense.

My poking around continues to lead me in a circular research chain with documentation sources connected to his influence.

We also know from previous examples of veterans also inflating their service history.

A DD214 while might not have all his awards, it will have his final rank, and will have is age at time of discharge, and most likely include all his purple hearts.

So while no one has taken the time to call him out, that might be because over the years he's been able to show just enough to keep those inquires at bay. However, there should be no reason while time and years of more and more pictures should add to the validity of his service past.

[Snoopy47]

More support CPT Christian is for real:

"In little more than one month time, from September 23 to October 29, 1968, David Christian earned the Distinguished Service Cross and TWO Silver Stars."

http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=4572

[sfpcservice]

If he's for real then run this man for President. We haven't had a war hero as President for too long and it is showing.

[someoneeasy]

Odd that he is an Infantry Officer with a Air Metal and no Wings.
He does have a Paratrooper badge, however that is not considered AirCrew.

Rusty,

what years were you an 7011?

[badash5946]

I was about to call BS and then i read his name. I have a book about him in my library. It's "Victor Six" by David Christian and William Hoffer and published in 1990. Pretty good read.

[NinjaNinja]

STOLEN VALOR

[Rusty42]

Rusty,

what years were you an 7011?

78-84 Yuma, Fatema, Yuma...

[someoneeasy]

78-84 Yuma, Fatema, Yuma...

Very cool, I was a 7011 a little more recently, 01-05 in okinawa with mwss-172.

[Rusty42]

There are 4 of us living in this small town.
You may recognize a couple of the names.
Pennywell, French and everyone knows or knows of Duran, or "BDL"

[epilepticninja]

I'm leaving my judgement open.

As I said I inquired with "guardian of valor.com"

He provides documentation of some things but not all things. So while he has a picture of him in a field hospital he doesn't have a copy of a purple heart order (and he would have had SEVEN to use as an example).

A DD214 would clarify many things not documented.

I suspect since it looks like from my poking around he's be riding these Vietnam service coat tails ever since he got out he would be harder to call out since he's been the one providing the continuation of his documentation since the 70's and 80's.

As we know, there are currently already many fakers as members of the American Legion and VFW since guys were able to get membership years ago prior to being required to show proof as issued or the Department of Defense.

My poking around continues to lead me in a circular research chain with documentation sources connected to his influence.

We also know from previous examples of veterans also inflating their service history.

A DD214 while might not have all his awards, it will have his final rank, and will have is age at time of discharge, and most likely include all his purple hearts.

So while no one has taken the time to call him out, that might be because over the years he's been able to show just enough to keep those inquires at bay. However, there should be no reason while time and years of more and more pictures should add to the validity of his service past.

Let me see his DD214 and then I'll believe he is for real. I know there were some things done in the name of expediency during the Vietnam War, but going from enlisted to commission between the ages of 17 and 18 just smells.

[NinjaNinja]

Let me see his DD214 and then I'll believe he is for real. I know there were some things done in the name of expediency during the Vietnam War, but going from enlisted to commission between the ages of 17 and 18 just smells.

Dude. It's stolen valor. It has to be.

[Snoopy47]

Dude. It's stolen valor. It has to be.

I'm poking around this guy's website more and he's been recommended for the Medal of Honor.

Here's my issues.
1) The recommendation was submitted in 2005 by an E4 who he commanded over. The letter is to a congressman for the recommendation.

2) While the recommendation for the award is posted on his site it is a blurry photo and hard to read in detail. The CLICK RIGHT SAVE AS function has been DISABLED.

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2a) Who here has a copy of any award they were recommended for BEFORE they actually were awarded the medal????????????????? He's clearly in the loop of information for his own award.
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3) There are other records he posts, but as PDF's, which I am able to click right and save.

4) The information he posts validating his service and credentials is selective.

With regard to his Medal of Honor "recommendation". It is really CHEESY. I'm calling this a 100% political ploy. 40 years after the fact, out of the blue an enlisted soldier he commanded over decides to write his congressman to lobby for the Medal of Honor. A few years later he runs for office.

The letter written by the E4 enlisted guy is notarized and posted on Christian's website along with a copy of the recommendation for award form.

There is nothing remotely official in regard to the Medal of Honor being associated to Christian. Some guy filled out a letter to his Congressman, and some guy filled out the Army form for award recommendation. THAT'S what he decides to post validating his military greatness.

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I'm filling out Form 180 for a request of his DD214

http://www.archives.gov/research/order/standard-form-180.pdf

I'll keep you guys updated. I suspect it will be a while.

I'm just curious how much claimed will correlate to his DD214.

I've been able to piece together his Name, Date and Place of Birth, Years of Service, and 1960s era Service Number.

So my DD214 request should be cut and dry.

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On the surface he looks legit, but there's so much wrong, and my sticking point is while he provides so much detail he omits the few key things that would support everything he says.

[keenkeen]

Based on what seems to be proven thus far the guy seems to have been an incredible soldier and a true hero who served at a level very few will ever achieve.

But hopefully someone will find something out of place and prove he is really the lowest POS on the planet...fingers crossed.

[stormvet]

Based on what seems to be proven thus far the guy seems to have been an incredible soldier and a true hero who served at a level very few will ever achieve.

But hopefully someone will find something out of place and prove he is really the lowest POS on the planet...fingers crossed.

Good post, a lot of valor recommendations are exaggerated and filled with none-truths when in fact they don't need to be. Just look a Dakota Myers, MC added way to much BS to it and it made him look bad, when it didn't need to. The guy was a hero and deserved the MOH without all the BS they included. The recent Navy SEAL embellishedments in almost everything they do is becoming almost comical.
All this is adding to the hunt for stolen valor, I believe that he is a genuine war hero, deserving of the respect he is due. But again the embellishments do nothing but draw negative attention.

[xsefan]

Meh. Army uniform regs are so ****ed up i dont know whats in your regs and what arent.

The army can never be on the same page with patches. Or ribbons or uniforms. My all time favorite is the large velcro with the tiny patch on it. Nasty.