California State Guard - formerly the CSMR

[nevets]

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[M1NM]

Glad to see we've got real water work. When I joined SMR about 20 years ago the CA Naval Reserve consisted of a few lawyers in the bay area that got together for drinks.

[nevets]

Glad to see we've got real water work. When I joined SMR about 20 years ago the CA Naval Reserve consisted of a few lawyers in the bay area that got together for drinks.

M1NM, I don't know if you're still in, but an O-6 dropped by our unit on Saturday to brief us on current changes statewide with the SMR and we were told that the maritime component was given a few boats (I believe 6 or 7 total). I'm excited to see the whats coming down the pipeline soon.

[nuocmua]

MARSCOM's diver

Anyone here interested in serving as diver for the new Maritime Support Command? No previous diving experience or certification required, just need dedication and commitment (and some expenses.) We are setting up plans to train in Santa Cruz and/or Bodega Bay with NAUI standards up to Divemaster and Instructor certification.

IM if interested!

[CrazyCobraManTim]

All - an update from our new Command General. Individuals desiring to join the State Military Reserve's new Maritime Component must now have prior nautical or sea service. This means consideration will be for prior US Navy, Marines, Coast Guard or Merchant Mariners. USCG-Aux is under consideration. All Army and Air components still accept civilians without prior military experience. That is all.

[zperk]

[E Pluribus Unum]

The short answer is "quite probably". CSMR and NYG are the top 2 SDF's. I have heard of people moving to CA and CSMR honoring their rank/accouterments. It will depend on the recruiting rules at the time you transfer.

If you hit them with a "I was in NYG, I was a 1LT, trust me..." the answer would likely be no.

If you hit the ground running with an up-to-date, current 201 file that has all of your accolades neatly spelled-out in the proper format, then the answer is more likely yes.

These are questions for recruiting and even if you get an answer today chances are that it could change in two years so I think any attempt at a solid answer would be moot.

[zperk]

CA State Military Reserve

The short answer is "quite probably". CSMR and NYG are the top 2 SDF's.

If you hit them with a "I was in NYG, I was a 1LT, trust me..." the answer would likely be no.



If you hit the ground running with an up-to-date, current 201 file that has all of your accolades neatly spelled-out in the proper format, then the answer is more likely yes.

[CrazyCobraManTim]

Unfortunately Regulations 600-1, -2 & -3 won't recognize prior SDF service with another any other state (or Country for that matter).

California will recognize Title 10 / 14 and USPH / NOAA Officer & Warrant Officer ranks as equivalent, but for enlisted - broken time may impact your rank when you return to service (or accession as its called in the CSMR).

Not that the gaining unit (Army, Air or Navy) won't appreciate your skills. And depending on if you meet the requirements for Officer / Warrant Officer Candidate school - that is a path to Title 32 rank. There are a very limited number of Direct Commissions that can occur if you have one of the 5-6 specialized areas the State is looking for qualified leaders to run Chaplains, JAG, Medical, ICS Emergency Management and Cyber.

And yes - TSG is 3x larger than California's - but I don't think NY or TX will be bigger for much longer...

[Snoopy47]

These are questions for recruiting and even if you get an answer today chances are that it could change in two years so I think any attempt at a solid answer would be moot.

I think a solid answer to the Guard and Reserves is that in 2 years they will be more desperate than they are now.

The complicated answer is going to be in how that exactly effects recruiting and which MOS's and rank tiers will be impacted.

For example, even reservist Warehouse Clerks of E1+ who are already "IN" are getting re-enlistment bonuses of $20,000.

When I went in the only ones I saw get $20K were ACTIVE EOD techs after they went through HELL to get EOD qualified.

[zperk]

Unfortunately Regulations 600-1, -2 & -3 won't recognize prior SDF service with another any other state (or Country for that matter).

California will recognize Title 10 / 14 and USPH / NOAA Officer & Warrant Officer ranks as equivalent, but for enlisted - broken time may impact your rank when you return to service (or accession as its called in the CSMR).

Not that the gaining unit (Army, Air or Navy) won't appreciate your skills. And depending on if you meet the requirements for Officer / Warrant Officer Candidate school - that is a path to Title 32 rank. There are a very limited number of Direct Commissions that can occur if you have one of the 5-6 specialized areas the State is looking for qualified leaders to run Chaplains, JAG, Medical, ICS Emergency Management and Cyber.

And yes - TSG is 3x larger than California's - but I don't think NY or TX will be bigger for much longer...

Thank you for the response. To clarify, my Title 32 commission in NY will be meaningless in a transfer to Title 32 with CSMR?

From your perspective, where does that leave me? With my previous Title 32 NY enlisted rank of E5? Back down to E4 (with a degree)? All the way down to E1?


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[E Pluribus Unum]

Thank you for the response. To clarify, my Title 32 commission in NY will be meaningless in a transfer to Title 32 with CSMR?

From your perspective, where does that leave me? With my previous Title 32 NY enlisted rank of E5? Back down to E4 (with a degree)? All the way down to E1?


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A man with a heartbeat and no college degree enters at E3. Most of the time college degree, police officer or EMT enters at E4. This is with zero prior service.

I could see an E5 coming in at E5 with no break in service. That certainly is more preferable than giving an 18 year old E4 because he went to 3 weekends of EMT class...but I don't make the rules.

[CrazyCobraManTim]

Zperk,

Sorry - I'm just reading you what the Regs are (they used to be openly available at www.calguard.ca.gov CSMR).

As I said - there could be that a case is made for your NYSG Title 32 position, but it's not Recruiting or even MACOM's call - it's entirely up to HQ.

Just setting the expectation & hoping that it would work out for you!

Tim

[hmanzano]

[E Pluribus Unum]

I have heard nightmares about recruiting.
One cannot always believe what he hears.

Keep one thing in mind and you cannot go wrong: "It is a privilege to serve."

Here is basic info for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Military_Reserve

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