Behold the people the libs want in control of all guns

[ccmc]

More info on the Georgia Outdoor Network forum:

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?p=8985898

[Untamed1972]

There is a simple legislative solution that still allows the police officers off the hook.

When you participate in a crime and someone dies, you get charged with murder.

Make it a felony for a CI or Criminal to provide false information leading to an armed raid.

If someone dies, they get a long sentence.

That still seems to absolve LE of any requirement or responsibility to do some actual police work before they go kicking in peoples' doors in the middle of the night and assaulting them with deadly weapons.

[ccmc]

The Sheriff is a Republican. I don't know if the magistrate was a Republican or not.

Actually Sheriff W.E. (Bill) Harrell is a democrat. I can't find any info on Magistrate Faith Snell.

[Untamed1972]

There is a simple legislative solution that still allows the police officers off the hook.

When you participate in a crime and someone dies, you get charged with murder.

Make it a felony for a CI or Criminal to provide false information leading to an armed raid.

If someone dies, they get a long sentence.

I think a better legislative solution would be to place limits on making these types of raids. Limit their use to situation where an actual immediate threat to life is present for example. But perhaps its time to seriously consider whether use of such tactics for simply executing a search warrant is in the best interest of society?

Or perhaps not allowing the issue of a search warrant based on solely on CI testimony? Or at least not a full blown SWAT raid search warrant?

[Untamed1972]

I don't think it will stop until they kill someone "important" like a politician and /or they are held personally accountable for their actions rather than the taxpayer.

That kinda happened already. They kill anyone, but mistakenly raided the home of a town mayor back east somewhere. I forget where....I'd hafta go look for it.

[Hoop]

When the casualty rate becomes unacceptable for THEM, it will stop.
When people shoot first (and accurately) before asking questions, it will stop.

No it wouldn't they'd just use drones to shoot people instead.

This kind of stuff will only stop when we 1) start holding police accountable for their actions and 2) end the drug war. I don't think either will happen very soon because of law enforcement unions and peoples' attitudes towards drug users.

Just look at this board, at least half the people on here still have that 1950s mentality of dirty druggies/dirty hippies/it's okay if bad things happen to innocent people because in the long run it evens out etc.

[Untamed1972]

I think the thing that REALLY pisses me off about this crap when it happens is that it's almost 100% avoidable. We're not talking about some rapid evolving active shooter situation where LE/SWAT is responding and misidentified someone by accident, or an innocent got caught in the crossfire. Those types of things, although still tragic, are at least somewhat understandable.

These botched raids are nearly 100% avoidable. LE is the aggressor in these situations. They are picking the time, and place and manner of the raid, etc. It could be argued that there is often no urgency to executing the warrant when it's just for a search, such that waiting a day or 2 to do some surveillance, gather some more intel, etc isn't possible. Which means this could all be avoided.

If it saves just one more life right? Is searching a house for drugs really worth possibly killing an innocent person?

[inalienable]

Is searching a house for drugs really worth possibly killing an innocent person?

For many, yes. Some think that summary executions for casual drug users should not only be a possibility, but a mandate. Here's Daryl Gates in the early 90's talking about what he thinks should happen to casual drug users:

His testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee that infrequent or casual drug users "ought to be taken out and shot" because "we're in a war" and even casual drug use is "treason". He later said the testimony was calculated hyperbole.

And that from one of the most powerful cops in the land at the time. Mind you, that was over 20 years ago, but there are many who still feel the same way. They may not be beating the war drums as much as they used to, but they aren't in any hurry to change things either.

- inalienable

[ja308]

More info on the Georgia Outdoor Network forum:

http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?p=8985898

Thank you for the link to the Georgia Outdoor Forum. Reading the comments it looks like this will not go away quickly.

I'm wondering how this can ever be resolved to anyone's satisfaction ? LEOs and state govts traditionally give lots of slack to their ranks.

[EM2]

Ah....another cop hating thread. You knuckleheads can't get enough of these, huh? And for what it's worth, the libs don't want anyone to have weapons, including the police.

Kind of a over simplification of this issue donchathink?

It is all about perspective.

To you it is a cop hating thread, but to us it is a love and protect LIBERTY thread.

Perhaps you should revisit your own ethics?