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  • AlmostHeaven
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 3808

    Biden Administration Issues Final Rule to Close "Gun-Show Loophole"



    The Biden administration is moving to expand background checks for gun purchases, fulfilling a key demand of advocates following the deadly shooting at a school in Uvalde, Texas.

    The final rule, expected to be submitted Thursday to the Federal Register by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, would eliminate a loophole that has allowed sales of guns without background checks of guns outside of brick-and-mortar stores.

    The rule was issued under a provision of the 2022 Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. It requires that anyone who sells guns for profit to have a license and that buyers be subject to a background check, including at firearms shows and flea markets. The administration had been working on the rule since last spring. Once publicized, it will take effect in 30 days.

    The so-called gun show loophole has for years allowed unlicensed gun dealers to sell firearms without background checks at gun shows, on the internet and out of their homes. The new rule, the most sweeping expansion of firearms background checks in decades, will apply to more than 20,000 individuals engaged in unlicensed gun dealing and affect "tens and tens of thousands of gun sales" each year, an administration official told reporters during a call previewing the announcement.

    "This single gap in our federal background check system has caused unimaginable pain and suffering," Vice President Kamala Harris said on the call.

    The vice president noted the 25th anniversary next week of the mass shooting at Columbine High School, which was carried out with weapons purchased through the gun-show loophole. She also pointed to the 2019 shooting in Midland and Odessa, Texas, where a man killed seven people and wounded dozens of others. A background check stopped the shooter from purchasing a gun at a sporting goods store in 2014, but he later purchased an AR-15 from an unlicensed seller he met online.

    "So many communities have been torn apart by acts of violence committed with weapons bought without background checks," she continued. "So in the memory of all those we have lost today, as the head of the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, I am proud to announce that all gun dealers now must conduct background checks no matter where or how they sell their merchandise."

    After Congress passed the gun safety legislation in June 2022 following a shooting in Uvalde, Texas, gun safety groups have pushed the White House to use it to expand background checks by clarifying which entities are considered "engaged in the business" of selling firearms. Doing so would not fulfill the president's plea for universal background checks, as it would not apply to all sales, including private transfers. But the rule's publication still marks a step forward in the administration's more incremental efforts to regulate gun sales through implementation of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act.

    The final rule comes a year after the president issued an executive order directing Attorney General Merrick Garland to develop and implement a plan to clarify the definition of "engaged in business." The Department of Justice issued the proposed rule in September. The administration has also made an effort to release previously undisclosed firearms data, offering a fuller picture of the illegal firearms market in the U.S.

    An analysis published last week from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found sales by unlicensed dealers were the most frequently used gun trafficking channel. From 2017 to 2021, the ATF traced more than 68,000 of these illegally tracked firearms to unlicensed dealers.
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.
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    LanceBV
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 52

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      splithoof
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2015
      • 5008

      That is why those communists are attempting to redefine what it is to be a dealer. The end goal is to confiscate everything, but to first do that, they must build a registry. By slowly getting everything catalogued, they will then know where the bulk of weapons are to be found.
      We need to make ALL sales of weapons over-the-counter, do away with all this 4473 BS, and the entire GCA of 1968 as well. Likely will never happen, but it is a good lesson for any other startup nation wanting a free citizenry.

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      • #4
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20758

        i got an idea how about we make a caged community for people who are not allowed to own guns and keep that area gun free

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        • #5
          Silence Dogood
          Senior Member
          • May 2018
          • 854

          .pdf of the final rule


          As 2A History posts on X:

          Key phrase on page 31 of the pdf of the final ruling..
          from the .pdf on p. 31:
          . . . while selling large numbers of firearms or engaging or offering to engage in frequent transactions may be highly indicative of business activity, neither the courts nor the Department have recognized a set minimum number of firearms purchased or resold that triggers the licensing requirement. Similarly, there is no minimum number of transactions that determines whether a person is ?engaged in the business? of dealing in firearms. Even a single firearm transaction, or offer to engage in a transaction, when combined with other evidence, may be sufficient to require a license. For example, even under the previous statutory definition, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when few firearms, if any, were actually sold, when other factors were also present, such as the person representing to others a willingness and ability to repetitively purchase firearms for resale.

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          • #6
            Silence Dogood
            Senior Member
            • May 2018
            • 854

            Originally posted by splithoof
            That is why those communists are attempting to redefine what it is to be a dealer. The end goal is to confiscate everything, but to first do that, they must build a registry. By slowly getting everything catalogued, they will then know where the bulk of weapons are to be found.
            We need to make ALL sales of weapons over-the-counter, do away with all this 4473 BS, and the entire GCA of 1968 as well. Likely will never happen, but it is a good lesson for any other startup nation wanting a free citizenry.
            This ^ is why we should protect self-made-non-serialized.

            As you say, "likely will never happen". Fighting 50 year old laws is harder than fighting proposals and recently enacted laws.

            Originally posted by bohoki
            i got an idea how about we make a caged community for people who are not allowed to own guns and keep that area gun free
            That^ is rich.

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            • #7
              E Pluribus Unum
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 8097

              I see this as a bigger issue than firearms.

              They are attacking federalism at it's core. The country was designed to operate as independent mini-countries free to govern themselves with a small federal government.

              Each passing decade marches us closer into a stronger federal tyrant.
              Originally posted by Alan Gura
              The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
              Originally posted by hoffmang
              12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

              -Gene
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                AlmostHeaven
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 3808

                Originally posted by splithoof
                That is why those communists are attempting to redefine what it is to be a dealer. The end goal is to confiscate everything, but to first do that, they must build a registry. By slowly getting everything catalogued, they will then know where the bulk of weapons are to be found.
                We need to make ALL sales of weapons over-the-counter, do away with all this 4473 BS, and the entire GCA of 1968 as well. Likely will never happen, but it is a good lesson for any other startup nation wanting a free citizenry.


                Lyndon B. Johnson
                36th President of the United States: 1963-1969

                Remarks Upon Signing the Gun Control Act of 1968


                The Government can help protect its citizens against the random and the reckless violence of crime at gun point. We have come here to the Cabinet Room today to sign the most comprehensive gun control law ever signed in this Nation's history.

                Some of you may be interested in knowing-really-what this bill does: --It stops murder by mail order. It bars the interstate sale of all guns and the bullets that load them.

                --It stops the sale of lethal weapons to those too young to bear their terrible responsibility.

                --It puts up a big "off-limits" sign, to stop gunrunners from dumping cheap foreign "$10 specials" on the shores of our country.

                Congress adopted most of our recommendations. But this bill--as big as this bill is--still falls short, because we just could not get the Congress to carry out the requests we made of them. I asked for the national registration of all guns and the licensing of those who carry those guns. For the fact of life is that there are over 160 million guns in this country--more firearms than families. If guns are to be kept out of the hands of the criminal, out of the hands of the insane, and out of the hands of the irresponsible, then we just must have licensing. If the criminal with a gun is to be tracked down quickly, then we must have registration in this country.

                The voices that blocked these safeguards were not the voices of an aroused nation. They were the voices of a powerful lobby, a gun lobby, that has prevailed for the moment in an election year.

                But the key to effective crime control remains, in my judgment, effective gun control. And those of us who are really concerned about crime just must--somehow, someday--make our voices felt. We must continue to work for the day when Americans can get the full protection that every American citizen is entitled to and deserves-the kind of protection that most civilized nations have long ago adopted. We have been through a great deal of anguish these last few months and these last few years-too much anguish to forget so quickly.

                So now we must complete the task which this long needed legislation begins. We have come a long way. We have made much progress--but not nearly enough.


                Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                I see this as a bigger issue than firearms.

                They are attacking federalism at it's core. The country was designed to operate as independent mini-countries free to govern themselves with a small federal government.

                Each passing decade marches us closer into a stronger federal tyrant.
                The Democratic Party has, for nearly a century, actively sought to invert the country's founding ideals and transform the United States of America into a European-style unitary state with all-powerful top-down national governance.
                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                  E Pluribus Unum
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 8097

                  Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
                  The Democratic Party has, for nearly a century, actively sought to invert the country's founding ideals and transform the United States of America into a European-style unitary state with all-powerful top-down national governance.
                  Agreed

                  Sad, really.
                  Originally posted by Alan Gura
                  The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                  Originally posted by hoffmang
                  12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

                  -Gene
                  sigpic

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                  • #10
                    TruOil
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 1929

                    Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                    I see this as a bigger issue than firearms.

                    They are attacking federalism at it's core. The country was designed to operate as independent mini-countries free to govern themselves with a small federal government.

                    Each passing decade marches us closer into a stronger federal tyrant.
                    This is true, and we have Abraham Lincoln and the Civil War for starting us down that road. The war established that the states did not have the right to withdraw from the union (which was probably a good thing in the long run) and further established federal government sovereignty over the states 9which at the time was through force of arms and now through the force of laws). From that point, the bureaucratic state was born, and has been growing ever since. Lost in all of this was the essential preamble to the Constitution that the States and the People created and were to be sovereigns over the federal government, at least with respect to state issues and individual rights.

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                    • #11
                      DrewN
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 1887

                      LOL, how does a 450 (!) page rule clarify ANYTHING?

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                      • #12
                        DentonandSasquatchShow
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 1298

                        If I can be arrested and put in jail for violating this "Rule" then it ain't a rule, it's a law. And last time I checked my pocket Constitution the only body that can make law is Congress.

                        So **** Biden and anyone that goes along with this.
                        I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

                        The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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                        • #13
                          ARDude
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 2723

                          Under this "rule", if I were to sell a firearm that was gifted to me. And cost me zero dollars. And decided I didn't want it any more...I would not be able to sell it for a profit unless I have an FFL!

                          So stupid....
                          Real-life Girls

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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20758

                            of dealing in firearms. Even a single firearm transaction, or offer to engage in a transaction, when combined with other evidence, may be sufficient to require a license. For example, even under the previous statutory definition, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when few firearms, if any, were actually sold, when other factors were also present, such as the person representing to others a willingness and ability to repetitively purchase firearms for resale.
                            i will admit there are probably gunshow people who without licences buy/trade and sell/trade guns they may aquire just for the purpose of flipping

                            but reading deeper it seems to not really affect the typical person who has a gun and for whatever reason just wants to sell it to another resident of their state

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                            • #15
                              M76
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 5954

                              Here's a loophole the occupying leftist pols across America should be put through

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                              Originally posted by dunndeal
                              Stop digging.
                              Originally posted by BrassCase
                              I only buy fireworks from Three Finger Willie over at One Eyed Jack's Fireworks.
                              iTrader

                              https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1884858

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