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  • Sgt Raven
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    • Dec 2005
    • 3753

    Some are now saying that SCOTUS may be holding these cases till Rahimi comes out and then GVR them.
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    • Bhobbs
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      • Feb 2009
      • 11842

      GVR again would be a massive failure. GVR of Bianchi did absolutely nothing to straighten out the lower courts.

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      • Sgt Raven
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        • Dec 2005
        • 3753

        In this video, WK talks about Cargill and touches the Illinois PICA AWB/LCM cases, too.

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        "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
        "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
        "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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        • Offwidth
          Senior Member
          • May 2018
          • 1222

          Jun 17 2024 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 6/20/2024.
          That is some blistering dissent from denial of cert being written.

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          • Sgt Raven
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            • Dec 2005
            • 3753

            Mark W Smith talks about Justice Kavanaugh's Concurrence in Rahimi that may point towards these cases.

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            "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
            "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
            "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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            • Bhobbs
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
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              • Rickybillegas
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2022
                • 1503

                Originally posted by Bhobbs
                Equating his Heller II dissent to taking interlocutory appeals cases seems like a serious stretch. Maybe Kavanaugh just likes to point to his previous works.
                I hope your right.

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                • Sgt Raven
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                  • Dec 2005
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                  At this point, IMHO, they are going to grant Cert or GVR these cases.
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                  "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                  "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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                  • Sgt Raven
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 3753

                    FPC quotes Sotomayor (Cargill) in brief on Illinois AR ban.
                    I don't know if there is a separate thread on this case.

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                    • selfshrevident
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                      • May 2011
                      • 706

                      Cert DENIED.

                      Dissent by Thomas:



                      They GVR'd Antonyuk & Range in light of Rahimi.

                      Edit: Scroll down the page past the list of cases to read the dissent.
                      Last edited by selfshrevident; 07-02-2024, 6:57 AM.

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                      • Offwidth
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                        • May 2018
                        • 1222

                        Originally posted by Offwidth
                        Jun 17 2024 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 6/20/2024.
                        That is some blistering dissent from denial of cert being written.
                        And it is a good one.

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                        • Bhobbs
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
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                          • Sgt Raven
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 3753

                            In Southern Illinois, U.S. District Judge Steven McGlynn has scheduled a trial on the merits of the challenges to the PICA law in September.
                            McGlynn has signaled he intends to be aggressive in moving forward with proceedings, to prevent them from languishing in court any longer than necessary.

                            The U.S. Supreme Court denied petitions from Illinois gun owners to review a Chicago federal appeals court's decision allowing Illinois' controversial gun ban law to take effect. Justice Clarence Thomas, however, called that decision 'nonsensical,' and warned the Illinois law will ultimately face a difficult reception at the high court
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                            "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                            "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                            "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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                            • Bhobbs
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 11842

                              Originally posted by Sgt Raven

                              In Southern Illinois, U.S. District Judge Steven McGlynn has scheduled a trial on the merits of the challenges to the PICA law in September.
                              McGlynn has signaled he intends to be aggressive in moving forward with proceedings, to prevent them from languishing in court any longer than necessary.

                              https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories...lt-weapons-ban

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                              • Sgt Raven
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                                • Dec 2005
                                • 3753

                                It looks like Viramontes v. Cook County is ahead of other AWB cases in the 7th. It has a Summary Judgement from the DC.
                                Opening briefs have been filed in the 7th CA for it.
                                Today, Firearms Policy Coalition announced the filing of its opening brief with the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in Viramontes v. Cook County, its Second Amendment lawsuit challenging the county’s ban on so-called “assault” weapons.


                                Summary Judgement from the DC.
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