Antonyuk 2 -- New GOA challenge to NY CCW law

[Paladin]

I didn’t know this was a Preliminary Injunction. SCOTUS doesn’t like to make decisions, especially RKBA decisions, based upon anything less than a full trial on the merits. Pity, this case is highly unlikely to go anywhere until then. Frankly our side should not waste time, money and effort on any more PIs. JMO

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-795/348791/20250226181813416_24-795%20Br%20in%20Opposition.pdf

[TruOil]

I didn’t know this was a Preliminary Injunction. SCOTUS doesn’t like to make decisions, especially RKBA decisions, based upon anything less than a full trial on the merits. Pity, this case is highly unlikely to go anywhere until then. Frankly our side should not waste time, money and effort on any more PIs. JMO

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...Opposition.pdf

PIs are one thing, appealing them a whole different animal. I agree, it is not worth the time to appeal beyond the circuit court. It probably isn't worth appealing to the circuit court either, given the rarity of relief being granted, especi9ally since athe issuance of a PI is discretionary with the trial court and will rarely be reversed on appeal.

[Paladin]

From SCOTUS today: 3/12/2025 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 3/28/2025

[Paladin]

It got rescheduled. It is now scheduled for this Friday’s conference.

[Rickybillegas]

Addressing Antonyuk will resolve finally all the sensitive places not just for NY, but every anti-self defense state in the U.S.
Somehow, I'm not optimistic. Related, Wolford the HI case is filing for cert for their crazy sensitive place ruling.

[Rickybillegas]

Why am I thinking SCOTUS is afraid of this?

[Paladin]

The orders list for today’s conference will be posted 09:30 EST Monday.

[abinsinia]

It appears it was denied cert.

[GetMeCoffee]

It appears it was denied cert.

It was an interlocutory review (right?) so perhaps it just goes back to SCOTUS waiting for a case that's been fully litigated.

[abinsinia]

It was an interlocutory review (right?) so perhaps it just goes back to SCOTUS waiting for a case that's been fully litigated.

yeah it was interlocutory so it should have another chance after a final opinion.

[riderr]

yeah it was interlocutory so it should have another chance after a final opinion.

NY literally spat on SCOTUS. They wiped it off and moved on. Pathetic.

[dawgcasa]

All the attorneys on these 2A cases need to learn the lesson that SCOTUS does NOT want to grant cert to any interlocutory cases. Quit wasting time requesting injunctions, losing on those, then appealing the injunctions loss up thru the Circuit courts and to SCOTUS just to lose again. It just wastes time and money. Face it, we simply aren’t ever going to get any PI relief from liberal district and circuit courts on 2A cases. They don’t believe that 2A rights exist in the first place. So lose fast on the merits, then appeal final decisions.

[GetMeCoffee]

All the attorneys on these 2A cases need to learn the lesson that SCOTUS does NOT want to grant cert to any interlocutory cases. Quit wasting time requesting injunctions, losing on those, then appealing the injunctions loss up thru the Circuit courts and to SCOTUS just to lose again. It just wastes time and money. Face it, we simply aren’t ever going to get any PI relief from liberal district and circuit courts on 2A cases. They don’t believe that 2A rights exist in the first place. So lose fast on the merits, then appeal final decisions.

Even if cert is not granted on these, they do serve to keep the controversy at the forefront of issues being brought to SCOTUS. In that way, they may help ensure that SOCTUS takes up a ripe 2A case sooner rather than later. There's a lot of heavy-hitting competition for SCOTUS' docket right now and unfortunately that may work against us. Every little bit helps.