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  • Ugly Hombre
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 1191

    "Democrats VS Republicans On Guns"- Position Documentation"???

    Gents is there a short educational pamphlet on the positions of the anti-gun Democrats VS the Republicans since 1968.?

    Perhaps something written up by the NRA?

    It would be good to have something on paper to provide Democrats who vote for the gun grabbers at the gun counter etc.

    It is a fact that Democrats are the anti gun party and have been since 1968 but Democrat dementia is a hard to treat disease..

    Any info appreciated.

    Yes I know the Republicans have made some mistakes- I want something on paper that factually compares positions.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 10-21-2021, 3:36 PM.
  • #2
    Ugly Hombre
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 1191

    Nothing?

    Interesting- may be something to try to work up.

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    • #3
      Puss
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 216

      Rage inducing: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/ That 40K number includes suicides, more than half.

      Old (Thinks McCain is alive): https://www.republicanviews.org/repu...n-gun-control/

      I'm having trouble finding anything definitive like the Biden link. How did your search go?
      An armed society is a polite society. ~ Robert Heinlein

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      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19008

        you will never win a gun argument with a liberal with facts...

        it needs to be an emotionally based discussion



        Since 1950 we have had a culture shift

        Hundreds of thousands have been raised by a parent who steal nice stuff
        Kids grow up stealing stuff so they can have $250 sneakers in high school

        people go to kill each other too soon

        UCSF Hospital did a study on the cost of gunshots....
        they found that 90%+ of all recent gun shot victims had been shot or stabbed in the prior 5 years

        maybe we need to tattoo these folks- so the next time we can refuse treatment

        carpenters get splinters- hoods shoot and get shot


        --
        what has any CA politician proposed to disarm Criminals?

        nothing....
        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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        • #5
          Ugly Hombre
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 1191



          ***"Gun Laws: Republicans vs. Democrats
          When it comes to guns, Republicans and Democrats have their fair share of differences. At our core as a nation, we tend to want the same things: prosperity, civil liberties, fair freedoms and safe communities. The only problem is that Republican and Democratic platforms set out to achieve these goals in very different ways. Your favorite Long Beach shooting range breaks down the two parties’ views when it comes to gun control.

          Republicans and Gun Laws
          Republicans are firm believers that the Second Amendment grants civilians the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense and recreational hunting. Their belief is that putting more guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens will prevent further tragedies like Orlando and Sandy Hook. An NRA official addressed the crowd at the Republican National Convention last month, sharing why he thought Trump would be a good advocate for gun rights.

          “Lawful gun ownership enables Americans to exercise their God-given right of self-defense for the safety of their homes, their loved ones, and their communities.”

          Democrats and Gun Laws
          The Democratic party’s approach on gun control is a complete 180 switch from their Republican foes. Most believe the Second Amendment only allows for a well-armed militia to protect from a corrupt government. Their main belief is that stricter laws will prevent mass shootings and everyday gun violence that occurs in domestic situations. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have worked toward putting stricter gun laws into effect during their political careers.

          Who’s side are you on?
          We stand with the NRA when they say, “We support constitutional carry statutes and salute the states that have passed them. We oppose ill-conceived laws that would restrict magazine capacity or ban the sale of the most popular and common rifle.”

          Long Beach Shooting Range
          LAX Range is a full-service Long Beach shooting range that proudly serves the greater Los Angeles area and its surrounding communities. Their wide selection of gun rentals allows you to try before you buy! They are located at 927 W. Manchester Blvd., Inglewood CA, 90301. For more info, visit their website "***

          Agree with the above.

          I am looking for actions taken for and against the 2nd by both parties bills and laws passed restrictions enacted etc.

          A type of score card which party enacted more restrictions on gun ownership.

          Looking for provable facts.

          Eg Democrats put in place- gun control act of 68. Assault Weapons ban 1994, magazine bans- and so on.

          Republicans- Regan puts in place California ban on open carry etc.

          Which party was the worse in the degradation of the 2nd? We know the answer, need readable facts to convince.

          The Democrats are by a large margin- the antigun party we know that- I want some provable short form documentation to use in debate- in attempt to get the truth in black and white out to gun owners and shooters who vote Democrat against their own best interest.

          Democrat dementia is tough to cure, a few will listen to reason though.

          Just a idea perhaps- a impossible one- lol

          "I'm having trouble finding anything definitive like the Biden link. How did your search go?"

          Still looking surprised the NRA or other Constitutional Conservative groups have not written something up.
          Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 10-22-2021, 12:47 AM.

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          • #6
            Librarian
            Admin and Poltergeist
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 44625

            See, rather, the presidential platforms at https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/docu...arty-platforms
            ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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            • #7
              ja308
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2009
              • 12660

              public law 87-297 is a real eye opener.
              Its part of state dept agenda on USA disarmament of citizens as well as our military. signed by a democrat POTUS.
              Senator Joe McCarthy was 100% accurate in claiming the US state dept, sides with International Communists's .

              If the document isn't convincing enough. See 2 impeachments against PATRIOT President Donald J Trump

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              • #8
                Ugly Hombre
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 1191

                "See, rather, the presidential platforms"

                Thanks will have to mine that.

                "Senator Joe McCarthy was 100% accurate in claiming the US state dept, sides with International Communists's ."



                To the 9th power in 2021..

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                • #9
                  OCEquestrian
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 6778

                  Originally posted by Ugly Hombre
                  Gents is there a short educational pamphlet on the positions of the anti-gun Democrats VS the Republicans since 1968.?

                  Perhaps something written up by the NRA?

                  It would be good to have something on paper to provide Democrats who vote for the gun grabbers at the gun counter etc.

                  It is a fact that Democrats are the anti gun party and have been since 1968 but Democrat dementia is a hard to treat disease..

                  Any info appreciated.

                  Yes I know the Republicans have made some mistakes- I want something on paper that factually compares positions.

                  Thanks!


                  Just tell the democrat voting gun owning HYPOCRITE FILTH (who should be discriminated against by the gun community in all things firearm) to google "DNC platform"( https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/ ). There they will find the following under the "HEALING THE SOUL OF AMERICA" drop down and they will find THIS:

                  Ending the Epidemic of Gun Violence
                  Gun violence is a public health crisis in the United States. Over 100,000 people are shot and nearly 40,000 people die annually from guns—devastating countless families, friends, and communities. We can and will make gun violence a thing of the past. Addressing the gun violence crisis requires supporting evidence-based programs that prevent gun deaths from occurring in the first place, including by making mental health care more accessible and supporting suicide reduction initiatives, funding interventions to reduce homicides and gun violence in neighborhoods, and strengthening protections against domestic violence. Democrats will also ensure the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have sufficient resources to study gun violence as a public health issue, including the ongoing health care, mental health, economic, and social costs that can affect survivors and their families for years.

                  Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition, close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers, abusive partners, and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal background check system. We will close the “Charleston loophole” and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms and extreme risk protection order laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability.
                  "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

                  NRA life member
                  SAF life member
                  CRPA member

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                  • #10
                    Ugly Hombre
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 1191

                    ***"Ending the Epidemic of Gun Violence
                    Gun violence is a public health crisis in the United States. Over 100,000 people are shot and nearly 40,000 people die annually from guns—devastating countless families, friends, and communities. We can and will make gun violence a thing of the past. Addressing the gun violence crisis requires supporting evidence-based programs that prevent gun deaths from occurring in the first place, including by making mental health care more accessible and supporting suicide reduction initiatives, funding interventions to reduce homicides and gun violence in neighborhoods, and strengthening protections against domestic violence. Democrats will also ensure the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have sufficient resources to study gun violence as a public health issue, including the ongoing health care, mental health, economic, and social costs that can affect survivors and their families for years.

                    Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition, close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers, abusive partners, and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal background check system. We will close the “Charleston loophole” and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms and extreme risk protection order laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability."***

                    Good information- thanks

                    It really is amazing to me that any gun owner would vote Democrat- It just does not compute..

                    Its like being Jewish and voting for Hitler imo.

                    I know about a half dozen gun owners who were rabid with hated for Trump and voted for Biden.

                    Totally stupid...
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                    Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 10-29-2021, 12:05 AM.

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                    • #11
                      OCEquestrian
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 6778

                      Originally posted by Ugly Hombre
                      It really is amazing to me that any gun owner would vote Democrat- It just does not compute..

                      Its like being Jewish and voting for Hitler imo.

                      I know about a half dozen gun owners who were rabid with hated for Trump and voted for Biden.

                      Totally stupid...
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                      You should call them out and SHAME THEM...make sure everyone gunowner you know who knows them also knows they vote democrat/Biden. You should at least exclude them from any gun related activities with you if not go further and "unfriend them" completely.
                      "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

                      NRA life member
                      SAF life member
                      CRPA member

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                      • #12
                        Noble Cause
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2633

                        Excellent source for info:

                        Gun Facts
                        We are neither pro-gun nor anti-gun.
                        We are pro-Math and Anti-BS

                        Gun Facts is an ongoing project to bring honesty into the debate about guns, violence and control.


                        Gun FactsTM




                        Examples:





                        More Examples:

                        Myth: Assault weapons are a serious problem in the U.S.
                        Fact:Fact: In the first 7 years since the ban was lifted, murders declined 43%, violent crime 43%, rapes 27% and robberies 49%. 4

                        Fact:Fact:



                        Noble

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                        • #13
                          TrappedinCalifornia
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 8009

                          2020 Democratic Party Platform Declares Total War on Second Amendment Rights

                          The national Democratic Party is no longer making any attempt to hide their antipathy towards guns and gun owners. Where once the party attempted to tailor their anti-gun messaging to appear moderate and appeal to some gun owners, the draft 2020 Democratic Party Platform contains a full-throated assault on firearms ownership and a blueprint for undermining every aspect of Second Amendment rights. Viewed in historical context, the draft 2020 Democratic Party Platform is the most anti-gun the party has ever put forward...
                          Unfortunately, the link in that paragraph on the NRA site takes you to a site which has been taken down. But, the piece does note...

                          Released July 21, the draft platform contains the following passage:

                          Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition, close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal background check system. We will close the “Charleston loophole” and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms and “red flag” laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability.
                          Democratic Party on Gun Control: Party Platform (page last updated 5/5/21*)

                          Republican Party on Gun Control: Party Platform (page last updated 5/5/21*)

                          * Neither of those last two sites are as 'current' as the last update suggests.
                          Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 11-01-2021, 12:33 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Paladin
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 12373

                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            See, rather, the presidential platforms at https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/docu...arty-platforms
                            Dem & GOP state and national party platforms adopted at their respective conventions. Take a Saturday morning off to devote to searching online.
                            Last edited by Paladin; 11-02-2021, 7:00 PM.
                            240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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                            • #15
                              Ugly Hombre
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 1191

                              "You should call them out and SHAME THEM...make sure everyone gunowner you know who knows them also knows they vote democrat/Biden. You should at least exclude them from any gun related activities with you if not go further and "unfriend them" completely."

                              I just tell them the blunt truth about the Democrat party- they shame themselves as gun owners if they vote the Neo Bolshevik Democrat ticket- they usual avoid me after that. Thats how I got banned from "off the topic" lol

                              Quote from politicians, leaders, media, government officials and historical figures concerning gun control.


                              ***"Bill Clinton, Former President of the United States
                              “Only the police should have handguns.” 1

                              “When personal freedom’s being abused, you have to move to limit it. That’s what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we’re going to have weapon sweeps” 2

                              Fact: Wang Jun – son of the late Chinese President Wang Zhen – who is chairman of the China International Trade and Investment Company and President of Polytechnologies Corp., attended a White House coffee with Clinton in February 1996 and was granted a meeting with Commerce Secretary Ronald Brown the next day.

                              He was also connected to more than $600,000 in illegal campaign contributions to the Democrats, the report said. Polytechnologies is an arms-trading company indicted for trying to smuggle 2,000 Chinese AK-47 assault rifles into the United States and it is the largest of the corporate structures owned by the People’s Liberation Arm"***

                              Good info guys thanks!
                              Last edited by Ugly Hombre; 11-18-2021, 5:09 AM.

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