H.R. 38 & H.R. 4477 National Reciprocity and fix-NICS combined pases House 12/6/17

[clb]

It's called pulling a fast one on gun owners. Everyone needs to read the above article completely !!

To recap, what are some clues that you should be concerned with the fix-NICS bill?

(1) The first sentence after the title of the bill reads “Section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (34 U.S.C. 40901) is amended…”

(2) Senators Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer are cosponsors in the Senate. This is a big warning sign!

(3) It’s being rammed through, without a hearing, in a very nontransparent process, and it will be passed by attaching it to the popular concealed carry reciprocity bill which already has enough votes to pass on its own.

(4) It spends over half a billion dollars to collect more names to include in a list of people who will never be allowed to own a firearm.

(5) It compels administrative agencies, not just courts, to adjudicate (Away) your second amendment rights.

BUMP
that's my take also....screw feind steen and thompson!!! both never found an anti gun law they would not vote for.

[mit31]

As has already been addressed, your "take" as quoted from GrampaJoel is based 100% on emotion and 0% on what the text of the bill actually says and does.

BUMP
that's my take also....screw feind steen and thompson!!! both never found an anti gun law they would not vote for.

[clb]

True!

I hope that the tide goes our way and the country wins NOT the politicians.
Ever met these two?
Thompson I have talked eye to eye with as he claims to be a hunter, then votes against gun rights.
Called him on it....
Got a song and a dance.
I will forgo comments on her.

Mods... if I'm outta line dump my replies please.

[Paladin]

Breitbart keeps the focus and heat on McConnell:

Mitch McConnell Ignores National Reciprocity for 46 Consecutive Weeks

It is January 23, 2018, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has ignored national reciprocity for 46 consecutive weeks.

Breitbart News reported that national reciprocity was introduced in the Senate on March 1, 2017, but McConnell has yet to say a word about it in public.

More at: http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...cutive-week-2/

[Jimi Jah]

The silence from Mitch tells us everything we need to know.

Swamp creatures have learned to play the base for support even if they never get anything.

"Elect/re-elect us and we promise to get it done NEXT TIME".

The dems gave played their minority base like that for 50 years.

[TruOil]

As has already been addressed, your "take" as quoted from GrampaJoel is based 100% on emotion and 0% on what the text of the bill actually says and does.

Agreed. The Senate NICSFix bill is not attached to Cornyn's national reciprocity bill, and Cornyn thinks they should be considered separately. As far as I can tell, there are not enough votes to get Cornyn's (or the House) bill past a filibuster, so it isn't exactly "widely popular" in the Senate. As others have posted, McConnell is in no hurry whatsoever to get either bill to a vote, and since he hasn't even mentioned it, we don't know if that is because he has made the political calculation that it doesn't have enough votes to pass (and would be a major blow if it failed) or he just doesn't think there should be national reciprocity. Who knows.

[mit31]

When the house bill passed last year it was openly stated that this bill would not come up for a Senate vote until the Spring. I don't know why anyone is acting surprised or upset since this is still January.

[Silent Pulse]

Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpJQTiGe3uc

Take it with a grain of salt if you will.

[Paladin]

Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpJQTiGe3uc

Take it with a grain of salt if you will.

Thanks. See the article linked in my post #228 above for what I think. tl;dr there are a lot of "moving pieces", so it is difficult to predict what will happen to nat'l recip this year. IMO, even Trump's behavior or popularity may factor into what the Senate does or doesn't do. I've still got another 6.25 years on my FL CCW, so I'm good regardless. Won't have to apply with the rush should it pass this year or next (assuming antis don't gain ground in the Nov election).

Here's your video embedded. Notice how he predicts the vote won't be until Oct, the month before the elections....

[Chewy65]

60 Minutes is doing a segment this Sunday on the bill.

[ColdDeadHands1]

60 Minutes is doing a segment hit piece this Sunday on the bill.

Fixed it for you.

[Paladin]

60 Minutes is doing a segment this Sunday on the bill.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/recognizing-concealed-carry-permits-across-state-lines-concealed-carry-reciprocity-act/

[ajb78]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/recogniz...ciprocity-act/

This article already has it wrong in the first sentence, HR 38 says a State.

The House has passed a bill that would allow Americans licensed to carry concealed firearms in their own states to bring those weapons legally into other states.

Also, I notice they fixed the summary since I looked last.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38

Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017

This bill amends the federal criminal code to allow a qualified individual to carry a concealed handgun into or possess a concealed handgun in another state that allows individuals to carry concealed firearms.

A qualified individual must: (1) be eligible to possess, transport, or receive a firearm under federal law; (2) carry a valid photo identification document; and (3) carry a valid concealed carry permit issued by any state or be eligible to carry a concealed firearm in his or her state of residence.

Additionally, the bill specifies that a qualified individual who lawfully carries or possesses a concealed handgun in another state: (1) is not subject to the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm in a school zone, and (2) may carry or possess the concealed handgun in federally owned lands that are open to the public.

[NASA 5]

60 Minutes is doing a segment this Sunday on the bill.

Thanks for the heads up on this. Just set it to record.

Fixed it for you.

And ain't that the truth.

[NASA 5]

Thanks. See the article linked in my post #228 above for what I think. tl;dr there are a lot of "moving pieces", so it is difficult to predict what will happen to nat'l recip this year. IMO, even Trump's behavior or popularity may factor into what the Senate does or doesn't do. I've still got another 6.25 years on my FL CCW, so I'm good regardless. Won't have to apply with the rush should it pass this year or next (assuming antis don't gain ground in the Nov election).

Here's your video embedded. Notice how he predicts the vote won't be until Oct, the month before the elections....

REALLY hope there is a reliable source behind his prediction and they're going to force some hands before the 2018 Senate Election. The combination of attaching HR38 to fix-NICS to usher dem support and then bringing it to a vote right before the election would be a brilliant move if that's what gets the bill through the Senate.