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  • #31
    kcheung2
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 4387

    Oh that's even better. So she quit a gun prohibition org because it supported another org that has a gun prohibition supporter as it's head. They can keep eating their own.
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    • #32
      Sutcliffe
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2003
      • 6792

      More to the story

      I just checked this 'survivor' out on her linkdin.
      It seems she's a 2017 graduate of 'Emerge Virginia'. It is a curriculum that grooms Democratic women for entering the Political Arena.

      It is an offshoot of 'Onward Together', funded by Hillary.

      She's not jumping ship so much as moving on to bigger and better venues.

      We will see her again.

      Just like dearest Shannon

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      • #33
        GDC
        Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 100

        Originally posted by Abenaki
        Simple.
        Gun control is not about crime. Never has been. It's about control.......Total control!

        Take care
        Abenaki
        Originally posted by Abenaki
        Simple.
        Gun control is not about crime. Never has been. It's about control.......Total control!

        Take care
        Abenaki
        Indeed, but in terms of where the rubber hits the road, it is about money. Hundreds of millions are being spent on this lobby.

        As far as members, I worked on the hill for a number of years, and still know people in this lobby -- there never have been many members in the rank and file public. if you have (especially) a constituent or national meeting on gun control issues with one side, the other, or both, the pro-Second Amendment side is going to be a range of non articulate to articulate actual constituents and nationally they and NRA. The "gun ban" now"gun safety side" will almost always be exclusively non constituent professional. The latter will be way more "on message" and with all kinds of supporting work from subsidized academics, talking points from professional communications experts, a promise of friendly free media and a bag of mothers milk -- money.


        NRA has over 5 million members (which is absolutely huge for a paid membership group) and a 58% gallup approval. The gun control lobby groups are essentially all astrotruf in terms of members, and if you sign up for their email list or hit like on facebook they count you as a "member."

        The issue is Bloomberg and a handful of allies creating a much more top heavy set of organizations which is inherently more professional because of the small numbers. Contrary to the Mrs Sloan message, it is precisely the gun control lobby that has way more staff and lobbyists.

        They are also deeply funding political contests; have an organic poltical sympathy with most media outlet due to a) partisan poltical leanings of almost the entire media, plus b) the "if it bleeds it leads" nature of the news business. And they have penetrated academic work though funding, and similar to the media advantage, there both self interest and political views of many academics in this area -- especially since they have converted academic analysis from its old placement in criminology/criminal justice, instead to "injury", public health or more recently "population health" areas of academia, all of which are inherently biased toward paternalism.


        The gun control lobby fails much more often than we think, it fails maybe 90% of the time, it is just that since there is a ratchet effect, winning 10% relentlessly works out well for them

        If you think about the major efforts and public views on them you can see them losing public support on almost everything. Their central strategic goal of 40 years ago was handguns. Huge majorities of Americans supported banning handguns. they got a couple of bans -- even though in the process they reversed public views to large majority opposing handgun bans.

        The same inversion of public views has occurred for assault rifles (20 years ago majorities supported ban, today this has fallen to a minority) and carry saw similar shifts.

        Their successes generally lie in proposing something that is poorly understood and immediately attempting to move it foreword -- since everything they propose tends to get public support initially and lose support. They need to be more nimble and have become much more nimble. California is an excellent example, they are stunned by their own success there.

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        • #34
          Mayor McRifle
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2013
          • 7660

          Thanks for making me click on a link to the Huffington Post. I'm going to have to buy a new computer now.
          Anchors Aweigh

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          • #35
            sl0re10
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7242

            Originally posted by Blade Gunner
            It also about getting re-elected which is all the Progs really care about.
            its revolution from above thing though. The pols picked this issue to get the followers whipped up over. They could have picked something else. They don't need to use it to get reelected. Actually; nationally they lose a lot because of this issue / they'd win more making up a new issue to get the followers bent over.
            Last edited by sl0re10; 09-17-2017, 10:00 PM.

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            • #36
              homelessdude
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2013
              • 2058

              Trump needs to force the RINOs to get every conservative judge they can seated. If he accomplishes nothing else this will be his legacy.

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              • #37
                epilepticninja
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 4166

                Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                God I hope so.
                Exactly. I like how the lady that wrote the article is all pissed off at Beretta for manufacturing the gun that she go shot with, but doesn't mention anything about hating her worthless *** ex-husband. ****ing liberals are delusional.
                Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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                • #38
                  Blade Gunner
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 4422

                  Originally posted by homelessdude
                  Trump needs to force the RINOs to get every conservative judge they can seated. If he accomplishes nothing else this will be his legacy.


                  This is a huge winnable battle. The GOP senate blocked hundreds of Obama nominations, leaving lots of vacancies in the Federal system. Historically the Senators from each state had to bless the Federal nominations effecting their state. Trump has pushed this gentile notion aside nominating who he wants. I only wish there where more vacancies in the 9th court of appeals.


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                  If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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