Gun criminals released ?

[ja308]

All good points! Im certain each one of these drug dealers have learned their lesson and none will ever behave in the manner that brought them the harsh sentences to begin with !Especially with the job training and skills learned in prison!

Its certainly refreshing to see calgunners act as defense lawyers for people they never met and cases they never reviewed.

NO I dont believe the HBO documentary's,you shoulndt either !

[pacrat]

There's a reason mandatory sentencing laws were passed. Just like there's a reason 3 strikes laws were passed.

To keep bleeding hearts liberal dickhead judges from releasing criminals back on the streets to further victimize law abiding citizens. With slap on the wrist sentencing.

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/stanford-judge-persky-removed/487214/

3 felony count convictions of "Sexual Assault". 6 months sentence. Yep, that's justice for you.

There's also a reason that crime rates are up over double digit percentage increases in the last year in Ca.

AB 109 and Prop 47

And the largest increases nationwide since 1990s. That reason is O-hole and his Dept of Jackoffs. Formerly known as the Dept of Justice. Polluting what little was left of the Justice System with lack of law enforcement and lax prosecution and sentencing.

More vote buying by liberal politicos. Promise the dindu nuffin savages they won't go to jail for commiting crimes. And the same savages will band with the libturd idiots and turn out in droves to vote for "More Free Ch!t".

More criminals roaming the streets looking for victims. Does not make our neighborhoods safer.

No matter what Kamaltoes and Moonbeam says.

[I Swan]

I'll likely get slammed for this, but I would be quite interested in seeing an ethnic percentage breakdown on those commuted.

I'd like to see it too but you know people are sensitive about such things. Also you have to take in to account that I believe 45-50% of people in prison in the USA are Black so if you see a lot of Blacks being released it is because of that as well you can't base it just on a population percentage of about 12%.

Really I could care less about many drug crimes especially marijuana. And gun enhancement I don't care much about either unless used in a crime. The crack sentencing laws were obviously a way to target Blacks weren't they all struck down by the courts?

[DannyInSoCal]

I'd like to see it too but you know people are sensitive about such things. Also you have to take in to account that I believe 45-50% of people in prison in the USA are Black so if you see a lot of Blacks being released it is because of that as well you can't base it just on a population percentage of about 12%.

Really I could care less about many drug crimes especially marijuana. And gun enhancement I don't care much about either unless used in a crime. The crack sentencing laws were obviously a way to target Blacks weren't they all struck down by the courts?

Yes. Obviously just because someone selling crack is black they shouldn't be arrested.

According to your logic - Only 12 black crack dealers should be arrested out of every 100 crack dealing arrests.

Statistical logic is not your friend....

[I Swan]

Yes. Obviously just because someone selling crack is black they shouldn't be arrested.

According to your logic - Only 12 black crack dealers should be arrested out of every 100 crack dealing arrests.

Statistical logic is not your friend....

Obviously it was a law made to target Blacks as that is a drug known for sales and consumption in that community. I didn't see any laws passed for harsher penalties on drugs mainly consumed by Whites like shrooms or something.

Where did I say Black crack dealers shouldn't be arrested? Also those laws were struck down for some reason I'm sure they were found unconstitutional or something I never seriously looked in to it.

[Hoooper]

Obviously it was a law made to target Blacks as that is a drug known for sales and consumption in that community. I didn't see any laws passed for harsher penalties on drugs mainly consumed by Whites like shrooms or something.

Crime due to shrooms dealing or most other drugs of that nature are less prevalent than crack and as such should be subject to lesser sentencing.

[gruntinhusaybah]

The crack sentencing laws were obviously a way to target Blacks

Right, they weren't made to target the massive and horrendous crime that surrounds crack and exits due to crack addiction, they were made to target black people.
GD, do you actually believe that?

[rootuser]

All good points! Im certain each one of these drug dealers have learned their lesson and none will ever behave in the manner that brought them the harsh sentences to begin with !Especially with the job training and skills learned in prison!

Its certainly refreshing to see calgunners act as defense lawyers for people they never met and cases they never reviewed.

NO I dont believe the HBO documentary's,you shoulndt either !

Well it would be nice if Republican appointed judges stopped going to bat for these ne'er-do-wells. Seems like they are in cahoots with the Obama administration to flood our streets with blood, drugs and animated guns that randomly shoot grandmas and toddlers.

I don't know if these are reformed criminals or not honestly, but the punishment has to fit the crime and in some of these cases it seems it didn't. Mandatory sentencing was supposed to end predatory judges looking to lock up the poor and minorities for inordinate amounts of time (like used to happen in the Jim Crow south) but instead what it did was make it so the prosecutors charged with the exact crimes that would accomplish the same thing without the good judges being able to use their discretion.

While I wouldn't personally have pardoned even half as many people as Obama did, or commute the sentence of any of my friends (Scooter Libby/Bush) we have to accept that mercy is sometimes the better part of valor.

[etwinam]

What no one is talking about is the sentencing guidelines which FORCE courts to impose sentences which are ridiculously wrong.

Sentencing guidelines came about because some people proved that non-whites were being sentenced disproportionately to longer prison sentences. However, society didn't like the idea of shorter sentences, so the guidelines were created to that EVERYONE got a life sentence for everything from using a public spittoon without permission to mass murder.

Now those guidelines are coming back to haunt the ones in power. Because the results are worse than the lopsided sentences from before they were created.

Obama commuted the sentences of a lot of people who have been in prison 3-4 times longer than they should have been. Some of those convicted did have firearms ENHANCEMENTS but were not convicted of crimes where they USED a gun to commit the crime. So, practically speaking, they weren't convicted of a gun crime, only a gun enhancement.

You may not like Obama, but you should not distort the facts to fit an agenda. That's what the Libs do. We should not act like them. We should tell the truth instead of spin or propaganda.

Standing Ovation

[ja308]

Yes thank you rplaw, well said.

And to Danny Socal, the reason many of these people sentenced for crack were released is the mandatory minimums and general sentencing practices for crack sentencing, which happened predominantly in non-white communities, were consistently so much harsher than those for equivalent powder form cocaine. The latter crimes happened much more often in white communities.

I really need to ask where you got this info?
I'm mean an armed crackhead dealing with gang activity will be sentenced more harshly than a cocaine user,without gang ties or firearms.
Just saying it's not racial!

[Untamed1972]

Restrict Law abiding citizen's access to protection + Release more criminals = common sense gun safety measures

2+2=5

Double plus good.

I love Big Brother.

And you forgot......ban purchase possession by those on the no-fly list......while letting known actual terrorists out of prison, knowing they will return to terrorist activities.

[Untamed1972]

Obviously it was a law made to target Blacks as that is a drug known for sales and consumption in that community. I didn't see any laws passed for harsher penalties on drugs mainly consumed by Whites like shrooms or something.

Where did I say Black crack dealers shouldn't be arrested? Also those laws were struck down for some reason I'm sure they were found unconstitutional or something I never seriously looked in to it.

And where was the vast majority of the violence occurring?

Is violence more acceptable based on the racial demographic of the community? Cuz today it sure seems like is, so I guess nothing has really changed? Bangers gonna bang!

[rootuser]

Is violence more acceptable based on the racial demographic of the community?

Well duh, of course it is!

[ja308]

And where was the vast majority of the violence occurring?

Is violence more acceptable based on the racial demographic of the community? Cuz today it sure seems like is, so I guess nothing has really changed? Bangers gonna bang!

Correct😢
Who in their right mind would want to investigate murders in a community that
hates and distrusts police!

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160204/loop/chicago-police-detectives-solved-just-26-percent-of-472-homicides-2015

Yup 26%! And that's what they admit.

[EastCoaster]

Its fairly obvious that releasing criminal gun offenders is a means to eventually justify more gun control.

From all those who don't remember 2011: Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations