" Has the movement to prevent gun violence hit a tipping point?"

[Oxnard_Montalvo]

Here's an interesting web page from the anti's point of view, mostly the same stuff trying to convince themselves that their activism matters, but the 'blowback' from the comment section MAY actually be better....scratch that... IS better than the story itself.

http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/gun-violence-prevention-tipping-point/

[Noble Cause]

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Noble

[glock_this]

I have been thinking this a lot this past year... that in the end the anti-gun rhetoric, while getting louder and more often, is also altering pro-gun people to the nonsense and factually wrong info they spread and so they are getting involved more since it has become so public. So that, in the end, yeah I think it will ultimately backfire on them to some degree as non forum and gun website users who are gun owners are seeing this nonsense more and more in the media and it is having negative effects as people otherwise not that aware are posting up on media websites and doing their research. Even more so when some uninformed celeb takes up the cause, as then it reaches even more people as it gets attention and many of those people are pro 2A and are starting to see the gun grab that is attempting to take place.

[Oxnard_Montalvo]

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"Oliver" had a detailed rebuttal:






Noble

Yup, people like him/her is the reason most of these agitprop sites don't allow comments (aka dissenting opinions).

[coryhenry]

Man there are some excellent comments that I'm surprised haven't been scrubbed.

[IVC]

Man there are some excellent comments that I'm surprised haven't been scrubbed.

Amazing how they always want to hide comments.

Reminds me of ACLU where it would be sacrilege for them to scrub the comments on their "interpretation" of Heller, so they made sure the only way to find the document is via search. Here is ACLU list of Supreme Court cases by year - no mention of Heller in 2008 or McDonald in 2010. Obviously, only *some* civil liberties matter. And, here is the link to the ACLU's interpretation of Heller (obtainable via explicit search) - comments are priceless.

[Bainter1212]

Amazing how they always want to hide comments.

Reminds me of ACLU where it would be sacrilege for them to scrub the comments on their "interpretation" of Heller, so they made sure the only way to find the document is via search. Here is ACLU list of Supreme Court cases by year - no mention of Heller in 2008 or McDonald in 2010. Obviously, only *some* civil liberties matter. And, here is the link to the ACLU's interpretation of Heller (obtainable via explicit search) - comments are priceless.

Wow.

The ACLU gets eviscerated on their own blog and is completely silent about it. I wonder how much pressure their rich liberal donors put on them to hold to their "collective right" viewpoint despite all apparent hypocrisy?

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[rm1911]

Folks, they're not anti gun. They love guns. Just so long as only the police and military are the only ones with them. What they hate is liberty. They hate an armed free citizenry.

Reason why something that affect the tiniest of fractions of the public has so much interest is that it's the greatest impediment to their tyranny. So ya create fear and stoke the fear and offer yerselves up as the only solution. Just give me the power and I'll protect you from "them".

Been the modus operandi of tyrants for a long time. So let's stop calling the people anti gun. They ain't. Let's just start calling them what they are: tyrants.

[Sunday]

The majority of the voters elected Obama twice . Those voters are the mindless zombies that believe with out discernment what the TV and movies tells then what to believe. They are what the politicians call the stupid voters.

[Messerschmitts]

The majority of the voters elected Obama twice . Those voters are the mindless zombies that believe with out discernment what the TV and movies tells then what to believe. They are what the politicians call the stupid voters.

I voted against Obama three times, first in the Dem primary, then in 2008 presidential election, then in the 2012 re-election. Lot of good it did me.

[baggss]

Looking at what is going on with gun laws in 43 of the other 49 states leads me to the exact opposite conclusion. The Antis are losing in a big way in MOST of America. There are only a few Liberal enclaves where they are making any headway but that headway impacts millions of Americans in a Negative way. Cali, NY, MA CT, IL and few other havens for Liberal idiots are all going one way, everyone else is going the other. Even CO is still open for grabs despite their recent stupidity.

They are at a tipping point however. They are at the point where any area that is not overwhelmingly controlled by Liberals there is almost no way for anti gun legislation to get a foothold. Most middle Americans, even many blue collar democrats are not buy-in the rhetoric that Bloomberg and his ilk are spewing. Look at the recent events in VA and how fast the Gov there had to reverse course of face a massive showdown with his legislature. Look at Detroit: A notoriously liberal city run into the ground by decades of Liberal Dem mismanagement, but you can now get a license to carry a gun easily since CoP decided he couldn't protect everyone so maybe it would be nice to let them protect themselves. Look at WV, where the legislature thumbed it collective nose at the Gov and passed a veto proof Constitutional carry law, with support from both sides of the aisle (71-29). Only a matter of time until it it happens there.

Yep, theres a tipping point, it's the point of the spear that the Dems are slowly impaling themselves on not understanding that the average Joe on the street wants to be able to own, and maybe sometimes carry a gun, in these trying and increasingly violent times we live in.