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  • ChickenLips
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 20

    AZ ID w/CA DL-Can I bring/register firearm into CA (off roster)

    I Have an AZ ID and property in AZ, while residing in CA Mainly. I have (off-roster) firearms (legally purchased) in AZ I'd like to bring to CA and add to my CA CCW. Is there a way? I was told I can do a "New Resident Report of Firearm" on CFARS, although after reading other threads I'm starting to have my doubts. Losing lease in AZ and want to start process soon.
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    micpib1
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2021
    • 25

    I also have a home in Arizona and I have purchased handguns there. After reading some of the same threads, I was convinced that my Arizona Guns would need to be left behind when I am in California. But I filled out DOJ BOF 4542 Firearm Registration Report online, printed and mailed the form along with the $19.00. DOJ cashed my check about three months later and I received notice that my handguns had been registered about six months after that. I included a letter stating that I reside in both states and wanted to carry my handguns legally in both states if possible. I also have an Arizona ID, an Arizona CCW, and a California CCW. JH
    Last edited by micpib1; 12-03-2021, 10:43 PM.

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    • #3
      taperxz
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      Originally posted by ChickenLips
      I Have an AZ ID and property in AZ, while residing in CA Mainly. I have (off-roster) firearms (legally purchased) in AZ I'd like to bring to CA and add to my CA CCW. Is there a way? I was told I can do a "New Resident Report of Firearm" on CFARS, although after reading other threads I'm starting to have my doubts. Losing lease in AZ and want to start process soon.
      No, unless you want to be a felon. Keep your AZ stuff in AZ

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      • #4
        9Cal_OC
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2019
        • 6658

        Originally posted by taperxz
        No, unless you want to be a felon. Keep your AZ stuff in AZ
        Freedom isn't free...

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44627

          It's PC 27585 -
          27585.

          (a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that the person purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state

          unless

          the person first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.

          ...

          27590 ...
          (c) If any of the following circumstances apply, a violation of this article shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170, or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment:

          ...
          (7) A violation of Section 27585 involving a handgun.
          And unless you or the gun might be Roster exempt, the CA FFL cannot transfer your own property back to you.

          Not an FFL question, but CA Law question, so moved.
          Last edited by Librarian; 12-04-2021, 1:59 AM.
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            No. Surprised someone would ask. Been a felony for a loooong time.

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            • #7
              ronlglock
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2011
              • 2670

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              NRA/USCCA/DOJ instructor, NRA CRSO, Journalist

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              • #8
                countonme
                Junior Member
                • May 2012
                • 63

                Originally posted by ChickenLips
                I Have an AZ ID and property in AZ, while residing in CA Mainly. I have (off-roster) firearms (legally purchased) in AZ I'd like to bring to CA and add to my CA CCW. Is there a way? I was told I can do a "New Resident Report of Firearm" on CFARS, although after reading other threads I'm starting to have my doubts. Losing lease in AZ and want to start process soon.


                is it possible to have an Arizona ID and a California driver's license
                I own a house in Idaho and a house in California with a job in California is there any way for me to get a Idaho ID with a California driver's license for the next 2 years

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                • #9
                  superhondaz50
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 2987

                  Librarian's PC links are on point. You can have a DL in one state and an ID in many. If you have ties to CA though, what you purchase as a resident out of state, cannot come back to CA unless it is rostered, non AW etc and must go through a dealer.
                  Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
                  A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.

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                  • #10
                    ar15robert
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2406

                    Need to ditch all ties to ca.So its not that simple to do yet many think with having a house in az as a second home then az id they can buy all they want and bring to ca then its fine.

                    I get in this debate with some on other boards i go on i just laugh and leave it at that and will get last if they get caught.

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                    • #11
                      BAJ475
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 5053

                      Originally posted by ar15robert
                      Need to ditch all ties to ca.So its not that simple to do yet many think with having a house in az as a second home then az id they can buy all they want and bring to ca then its fine.

                      I get in this debate with some on other boards i go on i just laugh and leave it at that and will get last if they get caught.
                      They can buy all they want, it is the bring to CA that is the problem. Under federal law a CA domicile who is residing in another state may be deemed a resident of that other state for the purpose of purchasing firearms.

                      From ATF website. "If a person maintains a home in two states and resides in both states for certain periods of the year, they may, during the period of time they actually reside in a particular state, purchase a firearm in that state. However, simply owning property in another state does not alone qualify the person to purchase a firearm in that state." [See 27 CFR 478.11, State of residence.]

                      As noted by others, the issue arises when a CA domicile tries to bring an off roster handgun or an AW back to CA or fails to use a FFL for other firearms.

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                      • #12
                        ar15robert
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 2406

                        Originally posted by BAJ475
                        They can buy all they want, it is the bring to CA that is the problem. Under federal law a CA domicile who is residing in another state may be deemed a resident of that other state for the purpose of purchasing firearms.

                        From ATF website. "If a person maintains a home in two states and resides in both states for certain periods of the year, they may, during the period of time they actually reside in a particular state, purchase a firearm in that state. However, simply owning property in another state does not alone qualify the person to purchase a firearm in that state." [See 27 CFR 478.11, State of residence.]

                        As noted by others, the issue arises when a CA domicile tries to bring an off roster handgun or an AW back to CA or fails to use a FFL for other firearms.

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