Liquidating firearms, C&R and modern.

[2meterB]

Hi -

I haven't touched any of my firearms since late 2017, nor have I been able to keep up with law changes even with tons of reading recently.
I'm going to liquidate almost all of my modern and C&R firearms.

I do know I can no longer sell my excess ammunition, but I believe it's OK to sell components (primer, powder, etc)

I plan on selling the C&R long guns/antiques to 03ffl/COE holders. (I no longer have my 03ffl, so no more bound book.)

And handguns+modern guns via PPT. Is it still possible to liquidate the whole collection to individuals, or am I going to trip up on some kind of selling limit law?

I didn't see any new 'evil configuration' laws, so I assume featureless is still OK.

[bugsy714]

Reloading components are good to go

Ammunition is good to go 500 rounds per month must be done at an FFL

California limits your PPT tofive transactions per year up to 50 guns total in the year

Featureless is still good to go


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[2meterB]

Reloading components are good to go

Ammunition is good to go 500 rounds per month must be done at an FFL

California limits your PPT tofive transactions per year up to 50 guns total in the year

Featureless is still good to go


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Thanks!

[M1NM]

What's the rules on C&R - can't he sell them to a C&R 03 FFL holder without the PPT and transaction limit hassles??

[bugsy714]

What's the rules on C&R - can't he sell them to a C&R 03 FFL holder without the PPT and transaction limit hassles??

Yes I believe so


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[morrcarr67]

What's the rules on C&R - can't he sell them to a C&R 03 FFL holder without the PPT and transaction limit hassles??

Yes I believe so


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A licensed C&R collector needs to fill out a form and register their acquisitions with the state of California.

Will this trigger something on the seller? I don't know. But if it does who knows what the will do if they find out the seller sold more than they're "allowed" to.

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[2meterB]

A licensed C&R collector needs to fill out a form and register their acquisitions with the state of California.

Will this trigger something on the seller? I don't know. But if it does who knows what the will do if they find out the seller sold more than they're "allowed" to.

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I don't recall the form caring who the seller was, just if it was "private party" but it may have been revised.

[morrcarr67]

I don't recall the form caring who the seller was, just if it was "private party" but it may have been revised.

You are correct.

Though you are "connected" to the firearms registered to you. When the new owner registers them, you will still be "connected" to them.

Everyone who has ever registered those firearms in California are still "connected" to them.

Again, I have no idea if they will notice that you are "connected" to any number of transactions or number of firearms sold by the new collectors registration required of C&R holders.

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[SVT-40]

Sell your C&R stuff to us out of state C&R holders.

Problem solved.

[MuayThaiJJ]

C&R are exempt from PPT limit:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26585.
Section 26500 does not apply to the delivery of an unloaded firearm that is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, if the delivery satisfies all of the following conditions:
(a) It is made by a person licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(b) It is made by a person with a current certificate of eligibility issued pursuant to Section 26710.
(c) It is made to a dealer.

[MuayThaiJJ]

You could also put a bunch of them on consignment and also get exemption from PPT limit. Call your local FFL dealer with consignment license

[morrcarr67]

C&R are exempt from PPT limit:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26585.
Section 26500 does not apply to the delivery of an unloaded firearm that is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, if the delivery satisfies all of the following conditions:
(a) It is made by a person licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(b) It is made by a person with a current certificate of eligibility issued pursuant to Section 26710.
(c) It is made to a dealer.

That's good to know.

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[Quiet]

C&R are exempt from PPT limit:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26585.
Section 26500 does not apply to the delivery of an unloaded firearm that is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, if the delivery satisfies all of the following conditions:
(a) It is made by a person licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
(b) It is made by a person with a current certificate of eligibility issued pursuant to Section 26710.
(c) It is made to a dealer.

That's good to know.

Limit does not apply when transferred to a CA FFL dealer.

Limit applies when transferred to a non-CA FFL dealer or transferred through a CA FFL dealer.

[morrcarr67]

Limit does not apply when transferred to a CA FFL dealer.

Limit applies when transferred to a non-CA FFL dealer or transferred through a CA FFL dealer.

Well, poop. I missed that part.