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  • #16
    ChuckDizzle
    Banned
    • Dec 2013
    • 4398

    Don't care, it's an accurate description, Sniper. If it isn't accepted it's denied, just like a "voluntary upgrade" is still a recall.

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    • #17
      Malthusian
      Veteran Member
      • May 2010
      • 4133

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      "While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"
      Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.

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      • #18
        ChuckDizzle
        Banned
        • Dec 2013
        • 4398

        Thanks for the advice Malthusian.

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        • #19
          Syntax Error
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 3817

          Your application was not denied, but marked incomplete. It's a typical CFARS kickback that we've all gotten. Just fix what they asked you to fix and resubmit.

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          • #20
            Malthusian
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4133

            Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
            Thanks for the advice Malthusian.
            "While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"
            Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.

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            • #21
              SkyHawk
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2012
              • 23472

              Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
              Don't care, it's an accurate description, Sniper. If it isn't accepted it's denied, just like a "voluntary upgrade" is still a recall.
              It sort of matters though. Every detail, the finer points, the verbiage - right now they matter a whole lot. If you made a mistake that is correctable and will lead to your accepted application, that is a huge difference from being ‘denied’.

              A lot of people are on the edge of their seat with submissions waiting for replies. Any real information you can provide, with as much accuracy as possible - would be very much appreciated by those who may follow and also have to deal with this.

              But right now - honestly I can barely make any sense from this thread, much less benefit from it. Was it your photo, was it what you typed in the serial number box on the form, or was it an incorrect DROS long ago that triggered this serial number snafu? Do you have a chance to correct it or no?

              I realize getting jammed up by DOJ and then having browser, computer, or website issues sucks and maybe detailing things isn’t your priority right now. But if later you could take some time to review, and summarize with great detail what you have learned and what error you or they (DOJ) made, and where you think you stand with this submission, that would be awesome. Thanks,
              Last edited by SkyHawk; 07-13-2018, 6:15 PM.
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              • #22
                beanz2
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 12032

                This is what a real CFARS rejection looks like:



                It states "Reject", not "Denied"
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                • #23
                  ChuckDizzle
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 4398

                  Skyhawk, I finally got in and it appears they wanted the "SN" in front of the serial number included.

                  They almost got me again though, the boxes to select evil features reset to no selections, which I'm sure would have been a new problem had I not noticed.

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                  • #24
                    Xerxes
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1664

                    Originally posted by beanz2
                    This is what a real CFARS rejection looks like:



                    It states "Reject", not "Denied"
                    Pray tell the tale of beanz and his road to rejection.

                    I wonder
                    Calguns wonders
                    The whole world wonders.

                    I don't think I have read of an actual rejection. I have read four threads describing visits where two did not have positive results but never a rejection.

                    I suppose at this point in time a rejection will require a surrender of the firearm with no chance to strip it down of usable parts. If I saw such before the BANG BANG BANG! on my door then I think I would take off as much of the value things as possible and just surrender the receiver. Though it is possible that this could then result in a tampering with evidence charge but how could they prove I did this after June 30th.

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                    Ya Chuck, you really should take more care on what you say as I read your thread to mean you were kaput instead of an insignificant and most minor way slightly inconvenienced.

                    There is a HUGE difference between loosing 2 minutes of your life redoing a submission versus having the DOJ gun club coming to your house and waiving around their guns you and your dog while they search your house as part of the for a safer society and for your own good confiscation of all of your firearms.

                    If you do not get the difference then I expect you will keep on getting the incompletes till they get tired of you and give you a real rejection. Come back and update this thread when that happens.

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                    • #25
                      beanz2
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12032

                      Originally posted by Xerxes
                      Pray tell the tale of beanz and his road to rejection.

                      I wonder
                      Calguns wonders
                      The whole world wonders.

                      I don't think I have read of an actual rejection. I have read four threads describing visits where two did not have positive results but never a rejection.

                      I suppose at this point in time a rejection will require a surrender of the firearm with no chance to strip it down of usable parts. If I saw such before the BANG BANG BANG! on my door then I think I would take off as much of the value things as possible and just surrender the receiver. Though it is possible that this could then result in a tampering with evidence charge but how could they prove I did this after June 30th.

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                      The visit was much more benign than it seems. Only three guys with MP5's showed up. No MRAP in the driveway. They didn't really mean to intimidate me as they had only 10 round magazines inserted and the fire selector was only on "semi auto" not on "burst".

                      J/K

                      Actually what happened was that I entered the wrong serial, entering xx774xxxxxx instead of xx744xxxxx. When I found out about it, they hadn't sent me any notification yet, so I submitted an issue and re-registered it with the correct serial.

                      I requested that the reg with the wrong serial be cancelled.
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                      • #26
                        shaocaholica
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 889

                        I want a rejection now just to feel complete.

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                        • #27
                          Syntax Error
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 3817

                          Originally posted by beanz2
                          This is what a real CFARS rejection looks like:



                          It states "Reject", not "Denied"
                          ****, I'd be scared of a knock on the door if I ever got a "Reject" in CFARS!

                          When did it get marked "Reject" in CFARS? Was it before or after a successful submission confirmation email? Did CFARS email you about a "reject" entry?

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                          • #28
                            beanz2
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12032

                            Originally posted by Syntax Error
                            ****, I'd be scared of a knock on the door if I ever got a "Reject" in CFARS!

                            When did it get marked "Reject" in CFARS? Was it before or after a successful submission confirmation email? Did CFARS email you about a "reject" entry?
                            The rejection came soon after I submitted the issue. The written comments from DOJ in CFARS clearly stated it was rejected at my request. I never got an e-mail from CA-DOJ about this rifle, either a rejection or confirmation.

                            All my firearms undergoing BBAW registration are now sitting in my home in NV, so they can knock, but CA laws don't apply here
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                            • #29
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Originally posted by boopiejones
                              Frankly I think you dodged a bullet. Featureless is the way to go. But there is a lawsuit ongoing about the system being down:https://www.google.com/amp/amp.sacbe...214798695.html
                              I got screwed all my 80% are featureless. I did that so I didn't need to register. Now that I had to register my featureless 80%ers I should have made them all evil Assault Weapons. 4 of my registrations got bounced because they are marked caliber multi. The ones marked 458 Socom and 7.62NATO they accepted. All my lowers are currently out of state and I have blank replacements just in case at some point they want these.
                              Last edited by M1NM; 07-13-2018, 11:51 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Xerxes
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1664

                                Originally posted by beanz2
                                The visit was much more benign than it seems. Only three guys with MP5's showed up. No MRAP in the driveway. They didn't really mean to intimidate me as they had only 10 round magazines inserted and the fire selector was only on "semi auto" not on "burst".

                                J/K

                                Actually what happened was that I entered the wrong serial, entering xx774xxxxxx instead of xx744xxxxx. When I found out about it, they hadn't sent me any notification yet, so I submitted an issue and re-registered it with the correct serial.

                                I requested that the reg with the wrong serial be cancelled.
                                Thanks for the share Beansz

                                Hence forth for everyone else if you find an error, DO NOT ASK FOR THEM TO REJECT IT. Submit an issue and ask to set it to incomplete so you can correct it.

                                It is not possible to submit a new registration.

                                Glad to hear the reject was at your request. I have yet to read of a reject given by CFARs to someone, especially now when the protected possession date has past.

                                I suspect this AW registration will be like the others where for the first year or two if you are found with an unregistered you will get some attention, some searching, but in the end it will only be a confiscation unless you are the focus for other reasons then you will be additionally charged with unregistered.

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