Can a CA resident purchase firearms in NV?

[aBrowningfan]

There was an earlier thread, but I couldn't resurrect it due to the thread being too old. So, new thread.

My question:

Can a CA resident buy firearms in NV with provision the firearms will remain in NV (I own property in NV where the firearms will be located/stored). I want to be able to purchase in NV due to not being limited to 'rostered' firearms, 10 round magazine restrictions and AW prohibitions.

I don't want to give up CA residency (I would lose the right to possess AWs in CA that are presently registered to me as a CA resident), yet I also want to keep/maintain firearms in NV that I can't purchase in CA.

I have utility bills, property tax bills, etc. to show my NV 'presence'; I just don't have a NV drivers license.

Thanks in advance to those who post.

[Cokebottle]

California does not recognize dual-residency for firearms purposes.
The Federal government does.
California considers you a resident as long as you have the intention to return to California when you are residing in a different state.

You can legally buy firearms in both states, provided those purchased outside of California are not brought into the state except by transfer through an FFL (from you to you, roster applies)

The fly in the ointment is the driver's license situation.
You need ID acceptable to both California and Nevada, and you can not maintain licenses in two states. Does Nevada have an ID card?

[aBrowningfan]

California does not recognize dual-residency for firearms purposes.
The Federal government does.
California considers you a resident as long as you have the intention to return to California when you are residing in a different state.

You can legally buy firearms in both states, provided those purchased outside of California are not brought into the state except by transfer through an FFL (from you to you, roster applies)

The fly in the ointment is the driver's license situation.
You need ID acceptable to both California and Nevada, and you can not maintain licenses in two states. Does Nevada have an ID card?

I don't know about a NV ID card. But I do have a U.S. Passport, so that should be sufficient ID for NV, wouldn't it?

[shaocaholica]

If you're a dual state resident, you can't drive/fly/send guns between those states if those guns are compliant for both states?

[aBrowningfan]

If you're a dual state resident, you can't drive/fly/send guns between those states if those guns are compliant for both states?

Firearms compliant for CA can be taken between CA and NV any day of the year. My issue is wanting to have firearms that are prohibited in CA in NV, but I don't have a NV drivers license (and I won't be giving up my CA drivers license).

[shoebox56]

In NV, can a firearm sale occur between 2 private individuals without the need for a NV drivers license? Basically buyer using CA drivers license instead. I'm talking about above board, no straw purchases, etc.

[BagelBites]

Firearms compliant for CA can be taken between CA and NV any day of the year. My issue is wanting to have firearms that are prohibited in CA in NV, but I don't have a NV drivers license (and I won't be giving up my CA drivers license).

PC 27585
(a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless he or she first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.

[Librarian]

See the sticky in this forum, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=503873

[Cokebottle]

If you're a dual state resident, you can't drive/fly/send guns between those states if those guns are compliant for both states?

Firearms compliant for CA can be taken between CA and NV any day of the year. My issue is wanting to have firearms that are prohibited in CA in NV, but I don't have a NV drivers license (and I won't be giving up my CA drivers license).

You can carry your CA guns into Nevada and back, but California law prohibits a California resident from bringing in ANY firearm (compliant or not) that they legally acquired in another state without it coming in through an FFL.

[SkyHawk]

In NV, can a firearm sale occur between 2 private individuals without the need for a NV drivers license? Basically buyer using CA drivers license instead. I'm talking about above board, no straw purchases, etc.

Residents of different states MUST use a FFL or one of them must be a FFL, in order to transfer firearms between the parties, in person or otherwise. It does not matter what state the transfer occurs in or how lax the state gun laws are. That is federal law, and a felony for violating it. 18 USC 922(a)(3) and (a)(5)

If you're a dual state resident, you can't drive/fly/send guns between those states if those guns are compliant for both states?

As noted, no you cannot if one of the states in question is CA and you can be considered a CA resident - not for guns you acquired outside CA starting 1/1/2015, unless you first transfer those to a CA FFL for DROS to you, where the roster and 1-in-30 applies. State law PC27585

[shoebox56]

Sorry, trying to wrap my head around this. It's sounding to me like the OP is S.O.L. ?

OP said he wants to keep the firearms in NV since he owns property there. So for him to purchase a firearm in NV, it has to be transferred first to a CA FFL, does the DROS, then he drives it back to NV?

EDIT: Since it's off roster, can't even transfer the handgun at all.

[aBrowningfan]

PC 27585
(a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless he or she first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.

I am not wanting to bring the firearms purchased in NV into CA. They will be located/stored at the NV property address.

[aBrowningfan]

See the sticky in this forum, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=503873

I skimmed the thread, and all posts seemed to be based on the scenario of bringing firearms purchased out of CA into CA. I am not going to be bringing firearms purchased in NV into CA. The firearms purchased in NV will remain in NV, and I can prove that I have property in NV (through the property tax bills with my name on them).

[big red]

if your DL is Nevada then a Nevada FFL should be able to sell to you because with proof of property or a lease on a habitable residence. But to do so you have to surrender your CA DL to Nevada and make that commitment. However those guns cannot come in to CA. At least that is the way I understand it when i move there.

[aBrowningfan]

Sorry, trying to wrap my head around this. It's sounding to me like the OP is S.O.L. ?

OP said he wants to keep the firearms in NV since he owns property there. So for him to purchase a firearm in NV, it has to be transferred first to a CA FFL, does the DROS, then he drives it back to NV?

EDIT: Since it's off roster, can't even transfer the handgun at all.

The one remaining question that I need to determine the answer to is whether a U.S. Passport qualifies as sufficient ID to prove I am the person whose name is listed on the NV property tax bill. A quick search of NV firearms purchase requirements doesn't say anything about not having a NV DL, just that a NV DL meets the ID requirement.

If the U.S. Passport plus the NV property tax bill is sufficient for a NV FFL, then I should be able to purchase firearms in NV. I can't take the firearms purchased in NV into CA, but that was never the question. Firearms purchased in NV will remain in NV.