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AW Registration Guide **3/18/2021 update: Registration may re-open soon**
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Holy crap, the time I have wasted on this stupid registration...They keep asking for more and more pictures. Now they've realized theyre running out of space too, this was from this morning...
"Based on the photos of the firearm, the make, model and/or serial number are not clearly visible. Please submit a photo of your make as an additional image (submit using hunting license image)"With Oden on our side.Comment
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I submitted 6 of my 14 required registrations yesterday. Exciting.
As for joint registrations, has anyone completed theirs? As I understand it all registrats have to submit the same info and pictures? Is that a correct understanding? Seems pretty stupid to me but what do I know.Comment
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My wife's joint registration paperwork came a day or two after mine. Her electronic submissions were done the same day as mine using the exact same information and exact same pictures.I submitted 6 of my 14 required registrations yesterday. Exciting.
As for joint registrations, has anyone completed theirs? As I understand it all registrats have to submit the same info and pictures? Is that a correct understanding? Seems pretty stupid to me but what do I know.Comment
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Do you know if the primary registrant's paperwork is contingent on the secondary registrant completing theirs? Or are they treated as orthogonal?Comment
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What I did with my wife's applications were they were identical to mine in information except her personal info and the date acquired, as I bought/built them prior to meeting her, I put our wedding date on hers and that they were acquired from me on that date. So mine say bought from RifleGear on these dates, and hers say acquired from me on wedding date. They accepted them.I submitted 6 of my 14 required registrations yesterday. Exciting.
As for joint registrations, has anyone completed theirs? As I understand it all registrats have to submit the same info and pictures? Is that a correct understanding? Seems pretty stupid to me but what do I know.
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I submitted a picture of an AR with a 9mm upper on a lower marked .223 and got this response:
"The firearm you are registering may have interchangeable barrels, however, for our purposes, we must go by what is stamped on the receiver/frame for registration. Please correct the caliber on the application to reflect what is stamped on the receiver"
So, they'll happily register something where the caliber of the gun obviously doesnt match what's engraved on the lower, furthering the point that guns can be reconfigured after registering, since this gun wont even match the registration data at the time of registration.Last edited by gose; 12-11-2017, 2:08 PM.With Oden on our side.Comment
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I submitted "caliber" as interchangeable as directed by OP.
Got an email stating that I needed to change it to "5.56MM."
I made that change but received "5.56x45mm NATO" for caliber.
Is the 5.56 the same as "5.56x45mm NATO?"
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I can't believe I read through all 595 posts but it was worth it to get informed.
I would like clarification on Selling a RAW and de-registration etc.
After the VOLREG, the weapon is in the system now as an AW. In order to sell it to someone else in Cali it needs to be de-registered and a featureless setup correct? (Lets leave AW dealers out of this)
This is a statement from a previous post, is this correct?
Only time I need to get out of the registry for sure is when I sell inside CA as a non-AW. At that point, the rifle needs to leave the registry in order to be sold.
This is the statement in the OP that is somewhat ambiguous and confusing.
I'm under the assumption that it must be de-registered before you sell it and converted to a featureless if not selling direct to an AW dealer or outside of Cali."Under no circumstances are you required to contact DOJ about your RAW once it's registered. Even if you sell it, move, etc."
To further complicate the matter maybe better wording should be used here in the OP.
Again the assumption is you can't sell it to someone else in Cali until it is de-registered and no longer an AW."2. Send a letter to DOJ that includes the following:
Full name, phone number, and current address; make, model, and serial number; and the DOJ Assault Weapon Registration Number (if known - if not known, then the letter must also be notarized).
If no longer in possession, must include a proof of sale or transfer."
Please correct me if I'm wrong b/c I'm having a hard time understand this portion.Comment
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Just browsing here for any new updates to this....seems like for many featureless will be their solution.Thanks very much! So it sounds like with no flash suppressor getting this shark fin grip will make it legal. I’m trying to think of what other ridiculous stuff they object to, but think that’s it. It doesn’t have a forward pistol grip, or telescoping stock, but will still have the original (non BB) mag release.
Although I almost forgot, it does have one thing that eventually will probably make it illegal in CA: it shoots bullets... ;-)
Note that a collapsible stock is also an evil feature - so replace it or pin it so it's fixed, and the total length must be 30" if I'm not mistaken.
Converting a AR to featureless:
flash-hider - replace with a brake or a thread protector.
Shark fin for a pistol grip, or a grip that you cannot put your thumb through.
No forward pistol grip - AFAIK a grip ramp like the magpul is okay.
A 16" or longer barrel.
A serialized and registered lower receiver. No blank 80% lowers - must be numbered and registered.
Can now have a standard mag-release, remove bullet button.
Now a 'featureless rifle, no longer an 'assault weapon'.
I have replaced my blank lowers with registered serialized lowers and converted to featureless - no AW registration.
Please correct me if I have stated anything incorrectly.Last edited by Browneye; 12-13-2017, 10:16 AM.1911 ShooterComment
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Just browsing here for any new updates to this....seems like for many featureless will be their solution.
Note that a collapsible stock is also an evil feature - so replace it or pin it so it's fixed, and the total length must be 30" if I'm not mistaken.
Converting a AR to featureless:
flash-hider - replace with a brake or a thread protector.
Shark fin for a pistol grip, or a grip that you cannot put your thumb through.
No forward pistol grip - AFAIK a grip ramp like the magpul is okay.
A 16" or longer barrel.
A serialized and registered lower receiver. No blank 80% lowers - must be numbered and registered.
Can now have a standard mag-release, remove bullet button.
Now a 'featureless rifle, no longer an 'assault weapon'.
I have replaced my blank lowers with registered serialized lowers and converted to featureless - no AW registration.
Please correct me if I have stated anything incorrectly."Civil Defense Thru Civil Disobedience; Never Disarm!"
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Had a couple of bounce backs (requests for more info) from the DOJ.
(1) A CZ-USA SA vz.58 Sporter does not have an explicit make stamped or engraved. The only other marking is "US patent x,xxx,xxx". I can submit a close up of the patent thing. What should I do?
(2) A Century Arms AKMS with permanently locked open stock that cannot be folded -- I'm being asked to provide a picture with the firearm in the shortest position in which it can be fired, alongside a tape measure. I'll provide a picture along side a tape measure, with a note that the stock is permanently locked in the open position.
EDIT: Century Arms AKMS registration was accepted after I submitted an extra photo alongside a tape measure and a note saying the stock was permanently fixed in the configuration represented by the photos.Last edited by FelixEstrella; 12-17-2017, 9:36 AM.Comment
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