AW Registration Guide **3/18/2021 update: Registration may re-open soon**

[Hairball]

I have a quick question. When my wife does her paperwork under my CRIS number, does she also need to upload the same photos of the rifles or does she just need to upload a pic of our proof of residency to show that we are at the same residence.

[CandG]

I have a quick question. When my wife does her paperwork under my CRIS number, does she also need to upload the same photos of the rifles or does she just need to upload a pic of our proof of residency to show that we are at the same residence.

DOJ wants her to upload the gun photos as well, even though you already did. They like the extra work, I guess.

[Hairball]

Thanks for the info. Trying to get this all figured out tonight as I will be doing mine today and then hers after I get the CRIS number

[RollingCode3]

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[Hairball]

Took some time to enter four rifles. I will wait for my approval before getting the wife in the system.

[thorium]

Also:

For Joint Reg you need to upload both people's proof of residency into both applications.

So on your application, you need to upload your proof of residency (e.g., utility bill, car registration, etc.) into the "Joint Registration" photo option, then use "Optional Extra Images" to upload your wife's proof of residency also.

Then your wife/husband/joint registrant needs to upload both yours and hers.

This is not at all well documented or intuitive -- I thought I should just upload MY proof of residency on MY application, and HER proof of residency on HER application... but got kickbacks to "correct" this.

[gregorio]

After Registration: What You May, Must, or Can't Do

Main thread: What you can/cannot or must do with Registered Assault Weapons (RAW)


You may lend or borrow a RAW, if:


The person being lent the RAW is 18 years of age or over and is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm, and[*]the person being lent the RAW remains in the presence of the registered possessor of the RAW, and[*]the person being lent the RAW is at any of the following locations:

• while on a target range that holds a regulatory or business license for the purpose of practicing shooting at that target range.
• while on the premises of a target range of a public or private club or organization organized for the purpose of practicing shooting at targets.
• while attending any exhibition, display, or educational project that is about firearms and that is sponsored by, conducted under the auspices of, or approved by a law enforcement agency or a nationally or state recognized entity that fosters proficiency in, or promotes education about, firearms.

Does this mean I cannot lend my registered AW to anyone on my private shooting range?

[FelixEstrella]

Also:

For Joint Reg you need to upload both people's proof of residency into both applications.

So on your application, you need to upload your proof of residency (e.g., utility bill, car registration, etc.) into the "Joint Registration" photo option, then use "Optional Extra Images" to upload your wife's proof of residency also.

Then your wife/husband/joint registrant needs to upload both yours and hers.

This is not at all well documented or intuitive -- I thought I should just upload MY proof of residency on MY application, and HER proof of residency on HER application... but got kickbacks to "correct" this.

In theory, you have "something" (e.g. car registration?) that shows the names of both spouses .....

[CandG]

Does this mean I cannot lend my registered AW to anyone on my private shooting range?

Good question, I don't remember seeing an exemption for private property, but I'd have to look at the statutes again to be sure

[CandG]

The relevant statue is PC 30660, which says:

(a) Section 30600 shall not apply to a person who lawfully possesses and has registered an assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle pursuant to this chapter who lends that assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle to another person, if all the following requirements are satisfied:

(1) The person to whom the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle is lent is 18 years of age or over and is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.

(2) The person to whom the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle is lent remains in the presence of the registered possessor of the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle.

(3) The assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle is possessed at any of the following locations:

...(A) While on a target range that holds a regulatory or business license for the purpose of practicing shooting at that target range.

...(B) While on the premises of a target range of a public or private club or organization organized for the purpose of practicing shooting at targets.

...(C) While attending any exhibition, display, or educational project that is about firearms and that is sponsored by, conducted under the auspices of, or approved by a law enforcement agency or a nationally or state recognized entity that fosters proficiency in, or promotes education about, firearms.

So, it sort of depends on how they define "private club". It doesn't say you have to be a "licensed" club, it just says that the "club" has to have "the purpose of practicing shooting at targets."

That *might* mean that you can simply give everyone who comes to your private range a post-it note that says "the holder of this note is a member of my assault weapon shooting club", and it might be ok, but it might not. If you're worried about this, you may want to ask a lawyer their opinion.

[gregorio]

So, it sort of depends on how they define "private club". It doesn't say you have to be a "licensed" club, it just says that the "club" has to have "the purpose of practicing shooting at targets."

That *might* mean that you can simply give everyone who comes to your private range a post-it note that says "the holder of this note is a member of my assault weapon shooting club", and it might be ok, but it might not. If you're worried about this, you may want to ask a lawyer their opinion.

Thanks. I'm coming to the same conclusion. Time to spend some $$$ getting a legal opinion which, in the end, will likely be "the law does not provide that option". Sheesh!

[Hairball]

Also:

For Joint Reg you need to upload both people's proof of residency into both applications.

So on your application, you need to upload your proof of residency (e.g., utility bill, car registration, etc.) into the "Joint Registration" photo option, then use "Optional Extra Images" to upload your wife's proof of residency also.

Then your wife/husband/joint registrant needs to upload both yours and hers.

This is not at all well documented or intuitive -- I thought I should just upload MY proof of residency on MY application, and HER proof of residency on HER application... but got kickbacks to "correct" this.

Why do you need to upload two POR documents when the bill I uploaded has us both listed and the address. Her POR document is the same as mine. I could see if you needed your own proof but in my case, It's the same for both so I will see how it goes. If they do come back and ask for it I am just going to send the exact same form they already have...

[FelixEstrella]

Why do you need to upload two POR documents when the bill I uploaded has us both listed and the address. Her POR document is the same as mine. I could see if you needed your own proof but in my case, It's the same for both so I will see how it goes. If they do come back and ask for it I am just going to send the exact same form they already have...

For the same reason you need up upload the same pics of the rifle. Because the DOJ is stupid and a simple pointer to the joint CRIS record would be WAY too easy. ::eyeroll::

[lordmorgul]

Also:



For Joint Reg you need to upload both people's proof of residency into both applications.



So on your application, you need to upload your proof of residency (e.g., utility bill, car registration, etc.) into the "Joint Registration" photo option, then use "Optional Extra Images" to upload your wife's proof of residency also.



Then your wife/husband/joint registrant needs to upload both yours and hers.



This is not at all well documented or intuitive -- I thought I should just upload MY proof of residency on MY application, and HER proof of residency on HER application... but got kickbacks to "correct" this.

[CandG]

Thanks. I'm coming to the same conclusion. Time to spend some $$$ getting a legal opinion which, in the end, will likely be "the law does not provide that option". Sheesh!

I'd recommend shooting an email over to Michel & Associates - if anyone can answer that question, it's them. Even if the answer is "No", it's better than finding that out the hard way.