80% lowers MERGED THREADS - please ask in here, not a new thread

[shaocaholica]

If you haven't made any cuts to the critical areas (trigger pocket & side holes) it's just a paper weight with a bunch of numbers on it.

[VaderSpade]

Here's where I get curious. So if you get the serial number and decide to put that on before making your first cut, you have a serialized 80%. What if you decide that it's too much work to mill yourself and want to sell it. Is it still an 80% or is it now over the threshold and needs to be DROS'd even though it's not technically a firearm yet? Or is it technically now a firearm?

I think that once you receive a number it will be your number and will not be able to be transferred without going through an FFL. You would not want someone building a gun that will be traced back to you.

[Whiterabbit]

DROS, likely. Let's be honest. YOUR NAME will be engraved into the reciever. You want someone to just go ahead a mill it out without paperwork?

[shaocaholica]

I think that once you receive a number it will be your number and will not be able to be transferred without going through an FFL. You would not want someone building a gun that will be traced back to you.

On a technical level it would not be illegal to sell an unmilled lower with a DoJ serial engraved and your name and location. I have personally serialized(not named) lowers that I intend to gift unmilled.

The only questionable part would be when a future owner completes it with your DoJ assigned serial number still on it. The future owner(or you) can always (crudely) grind off the DoJ serial if no ill intent is involved.

You could always contact the DoJ and say you no longer want that serial and it should be removed from their records, etc. etc. etc.

[VaderSpade]

At $29-$49.00 for an 80% lower I can't see a lot of this happening.

[rodneyb]

Eighty percent question

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Does that mean that a featured eighty percent build rifle built prior to 2017, with a custom serial # engraved per DOJ regulations (height, depth, etc.) cant be registered?

[kcheung2]

Since this is a rifle build, my question is why did you go through the cost & effort of milling out an 80 only to register it?

[.45 ACP]

Since this is a rifle build, my question is why did you go through the cost & effort of milling out an 80 only to register it?

Exactly.

People can do what they want, but doing an 80% and then registering defeats the entire purpose of doing an 80% in the first place.

[rodneyb]

Since this is a rifle build, my question is why did you go through the cost & effort of milling out an 80 only to register it?

Nobody said I did.

[rodneyb]

Exactly.

People can do what they want, but doing an 80% and then registering defeats the entire purpose of doing an 80% in the first place.

Right guys but that's not the question.

[TheThousands]

My understanding is that you have until 12/31/2017 to use your own serial numbers on home builds. Next year you will need to apply for a serial from the DOJ.

[CandG]

Maybe he built it before Gunmaggeddon?

To answer your question OP, yes technically you need to apply for a SN with the DOJ (according to the proposed DOJ RAW registration regulations), and then apply the serial number to your lower before you can register as an assault weapon. Otherwise, convert to fixed magazine or featureless, or remove from the state. Or roll the dice and do nothing, it's your call.

[rodneyb]

My understanding is that you have until 12/31/2017 to use your own serial numbers on home builds. Next year you will need to apply for a serial from the DOJ.

Thats what I thought too, that's why I was confused by the snippet above, taken from the DOJ bullet button announcement.

[shaocaholica]

Yeah it's highly unlikely but I'll entertain discussion none the less. Lowest I've seen for mil spec forged 7075 80% lowers is $39. Where did you see $29?

[rodneyb]

Maybe he built it before Gunmaggeddon?

To answer your question OP, yes technically you need to apply for a SN with the DOJ (according to the proposed DOJ RAW registration regulations), and then apply the serial number to your lower before you can register as an assault weapon. Otherwise, convert to fixed magazine or featureless, or remove from the state. Or roll the dice and do nothing, it's your call.

Was the under the impression that the DOJ assigned serial number was only required if it wasn't serialized (with builder assigned #) before 2017 laws.