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  • CalAlumnus
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 817

    DROS Background Check vs CCW Background Check

    What's the difference? What does the CCW check include that the standard DROS check doesn't?
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    Biigg50
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 553

    Everything! Actually the CCW background check goes much deeper, DROS only checks if you have anything prohibitive. CCW is a full FBI check on your history, good and bad to try and establish patterns or traits about you. When I went in for the interview they had a list of every traffic violation going back to when I started driving. Every documented firearms transaction I've made in the last approx 20 yrs. Police reports of my neighborhood etc.
    I have a friend who owns a pawn shop/gun store that I have done a lot of business with over the years. During the interview he kept asking why I frequent the pawn shop so much. He tried several times to twist things on his list just to get a rise out of me, but in the end I passed and received my CCW.

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    • #3
      ziconceo
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 3269

      Originally posted by Biigg50
      Everything! Actually the CCW background check goes much deeper, DROS only checks if you have anything prohibitive. CCW is a full FBI check on your history, good and bad to try and establish patterns or traits about you. When I went in for the interview they had a list of every traffic violation going back to when I started driving. Every documented firearms transaction I've made in the last approx 20 yrs. Police reports of my neighborhood etc.
      I have a friend who owns a pawn shop/gun store that I have done a lot of business with over the years. During the interview he kept asking why I frequent the pawn shop so much. He tried several times to twist things on his list just to get a rise out of me, but in the end I passed and received my CCW.
      Gasp! Do they go over your internet history as well? If so, I'll never pass
      I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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      • #4
        silversurfer525
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 70

        Originally posted by Biigg50
        ...... During the interview he kept asking why I frequent the pawn shop so much. He tried several times to twist things on his list just to get a rise out of me, but in the end I passed and received my CCW.
        Wow....the interview process must be more extensive in your county/city than here in the OC. I didnt, nor have I heard of any OC applicants getting grilled like that at their CCW interview. If it had happened, I got nothing to hide, but your story reminds me of the interviews I went thru when I had tried to interview for a LEO position when I was younger.....
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        • #5
          Biigg50
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 553

          When I first got my CCW, about 26 yrs ago, I went in and sat across the desk from The Sheriff for the interview. No back ground check just a quick talk and on my way. I let it lapse during the 90's, so it was an eye opener when I applied for a new one.

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by CalAlumnus
            What's the difference? What does the CCW check include that the standard DROS check doesn't?
            Some differences... (varies depends on the issuing agency)

            Part of the background check process with my issuing agency...
            1. They sent an "employment verification" letter to my employer, informing them that I was applying for a CCW permit and asked them questions about the type of person I am.
            2. They performed a "residency check", in which they checked to see if I lived at the address listed on my permit application and interviewed my neighbors to get their perception on the type of person I am.
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            • #7
              leadchucker
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 622

              Originally posted by Quiet
              2. They performed a "residency check", in which they checked to see if I lived at the address listed on my permit application and interviewed my neighbors to get their perception on the type of person I am.
              Nothing like making neighbors suspicious of you. What makes them think neighbors have a good grasp of how you really are to begin with? What if the neighbors are jackass hoodlums and you are a goody-two-shoes that they hate? This is just wrong on so many fronts.

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              • #8
                Marauder2003
                Waiting for Abs
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Aug 2010
                • 2929

                As I understand it, in San Bernardino, the neighbor interviews did not mention CCW or guns. Just character stuff. When I applied I had to submit 3 letters of reference. I got mine from my gun dealer, an ex-LEO and a Fire Chief.
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                • #9
                  Doheny
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13820

                  Originally posted by Biigg50
                  Everything! Actually the CCW background check goes much deeper, DROS only checks if you have anything prohibitive. CCW is a full FBI check on your history, good and bad to try and establish patterns or traits about you. When I went in for the interview they had a list of every traffic violation going back to when I started driving. Every documented firearms transaction I've made in the last approx 20 yrs. Police reports of my neighborhood etc.
                  I have a friend who owns a pawn shop/gun store that I have done a lot of business with over the years. During the interview he kept asking why I frequent the pawn shop so much. He tried several times to twist things on his list just to get a rise out of me, but in the end I passed and received my CCW.
                  Actually that check on your criminal history is what your IA did, not part of your FBI check. The FBI doesn't car about your traffic violations, police reports from your neighborhood, etc.
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                  • #10
                    Doheny
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13820

                    Originally posted by CalAlumnus
                    What's the difference? What does the CCW check include that the standard DROS check doesn't?
                    Not sure what you mean by "CCW check." What part are you talking about?
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                    • #11
                      V13
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 81

                      I've heard they can check internet posts. Fb, forums, whatever


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                      • #12
                        splithoof
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2015
                        • 5490

                        Originally posted by V13
                        I've heard they can check internet posts. Fb, forums, whatever


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                        They can demand that you surrender anything they want.....if you refuse, it is simple: no CCW for you.

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                        • #13
                          leadchucker
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 622

                          Originally posted by Marauder2003
                          As I understand it, in San Bernardino, the neighbor interviews did not mention CCW or guns. Just character stuff.
                          Exactly. Most people would automatically assume the worst if the police were to question them about a particular neighbor, even if the officer tried to reassure them!

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                          • #14
                            baggss
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 3439

                            Every IA is different, part of what makes CA such a colorful place to follow the process.

                            Ventura SD did the Interview BEFORE they did the background check and the interview was primarily to make sure I didn't want to change or expand/add to any of the answers on the written App. It was pretty short and pretty professional. Someone mentioned that they do residence verification by bouncing the DMV record and County Tax records off the application address, which makes sense. They may have asked my neighbors for all I know, no one mention being contacted though.

                            What's the background check consisted of, who knows? I assume an FBI criminal background as well as other things, probably similar to what the DHS did when I applied for the Global Entry program and what I go through every so often for my Security Clearance for my job. Whatever it was I passed not only that but also the "Good Morals" requirement as well.

                            Originally posted by leadchucker
                            Exactly. Most people would automatically assume the worst if the police were to question them about a particular neighbor, even if the officer tried to reassure them!
                            I've actually been contacted by investigators at previous residences I'ver had here in the county.They all said it had to do with employment verification and they were either SD Detectives or the folks the feds send out to do background checks for gov jobs.
                            Last edited by baggss; 01-16-2016, 12:46 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Decoligny
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 10615

                              Originally posted by silversurfer525
                              Wow....the interview process must be more extensive in your county/city than here in the OC. I didnt, nor have I heard of any OC applicants getting grilled like that at their CCW interview. If it had happened, I got nothing to hide, but your story reminds me of the interviews I went thru when I had tried to interview for a LEO position when I was younger.....
                              Wow, you guys have to go through an interview?

                              Here in Kern County they just call you on the phone if they have any questions or need clarification about your application.
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