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  • Anthony S
    Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 118

    2022 Sacramento County Sheriff election mega thread

    Since Sheriff Jones is not running for re-election and is backing his Chief Deputy James Barnes, how would this effect current and future CCW permits? I tried a google search but couldnt find anything that listed Barnes`s position on CCW permits.
    Last edited by Quiet; 03-17-2022, 8:00 AM. Reason: creating uber thread about this topic
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    Scotty
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1741

    Funny, we just covered this in the renewal class I took last week.

    Barnes is pro ccw and believes in much of the same as Jones. Jones apparently visits the range often and speaks with the instructor.

    An Elk Grove Assemblyman, Jim Cooper, is also going to be running. He's former Sac Sheriff. The instructor had people that know Cooper, including Cooper's brother, in his class. They said he's pro ccw. They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office, while Barnes would run the day to day aspect keeping everything the same.

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    • #3
      AreWeNotMen?
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 817

      Originally posted by Scotty

      An Elk Grove Assemblyman, Jim Cooper, is also going to be running. He's former Sac Sheriff. The instructor had people that know Cooper, including Cooper's brother, in his class. They said he's pro ccw. They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office, while Barnes would run the day to day aspect keeping everything the same.
      They LIE! Look at his voting record - gun control politician all the way. He's a nice guy, buy big fat NO for Sheriff.
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      • #4
        Dvrjon
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2012
        • 11326

        Not a fan of quoting myself, but this was raised in the Sacramento County CCW thread in this forum:

        On Jones and the election:
        Originally posted by Dvrjon
        -Re-elected in 2018; 4-year term ends 31 Dec 2022.
        - -2022 Primary election, Jun 7, 2022.
        - -Candidates with 50%+1 in June win.
        - -If no clear winner, then a run-off is part of the Nov General Election (also the date for federal mid-terms).

        -Captain Jim Barnes has announced his candidacy.
        - - Currently leads Field and Investigative Services (includes CCW).

        -Watch for the progressives to fund their own candidate pushing for accountability and diversity.
        - -They won’t start pushing until after the new year.
        - -Here’s Command Staff.
        ////////

        On Cooper
        Originally posted by Dvrjon
        Oh yay!
        Voting Record includes:
        -Prohibits CCW on schools
        -Releases CCW holder info to Wintermut
        -Limits purchase of firearms
        His “no votes” are equally heinous.

        Leads EFFORT TO curtail Gun Violence

        Of course, in 2010 when he ran against Scott Jones, he was “shall issue” for CCWs.
        "They said he's more of a politician so he would be the figure head of the office",

        That's probably the most naive, self-serving statement I've read in a year. CCW authority to "may" issue rests with the Sheriff, not the staff. The policy is the Sheriff's policy. In that role, he is not a figurehead. As a politician, we know his record on 2A issues. His policy will follow that record.
        Last edited by Dvrjon; 11-09-2021, 7:03 AM.

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        • #5
          Paladin
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2005
          • 12403

          You Sacto people need to attend you county NRA Members Council, contact the CRPA, GOC/GOA, GOP, etc to ensure a pro CCW candidate is elected sheriff on June 7th.
          240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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          • #6
            tdp113530
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 539

            Cooper is a Democrat Politician. Review his assembly voting record before voting for him as Sheriff.

            I'm voting for and supporting Barnes for Sheriff. Last thing we need is another Democrat in any office.
            Last edited by tdp113530; 11-13-2021, 10:48 AM.

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            • #7
              sacrvrrat
              Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 425

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              • #8
                Paladin
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2005
                • 12403

                Originally posted by tdp113530
                I'm voting for and supporting Barnes for Sheriff. Last thing we need is another Democrat in any office.
                Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

                Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green.

                Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.
                240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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                • #9
                  wweigle
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 803

                  CCW holders as a voting block.

                  When Jones and Cooper were in Runoff election for Sheriff about 10 years ago. Jones was very clear he was going to create a Shall Issue policy if elected. Cooper repeatedly gave some round about statements in the initial debates that included a third candidate who's whole platform was CCW. The third candidate was never going to be elected he, but he forced the CCW issue into the election. Can't remember the third candidates name, but we owe him a debt of graduated . In the first round of debates that included the third candidate, if I remember correctly Cooper was stating something like "He would follow the law", he never stated clearly he would create a Shall issue policy. If I remember correctly he only started using the term Shall Issue during the Runoff debates, because Jones was so clear about his position, and it clearly resonated with the voters. Had a couple of my buddies fooled. I believe Jones won the Runoff election by about 8,000 or 9,000 votes, which I believe is less than the amount of CCW permits currently outstanding under Jones. CCW holders have the potential of deciding the election if we all get behind Jones's supported candidate, if in fact he intends to continue the Shall Issue policy. After following Coopers voting record in recent years, its pretty evident to me that those of us that have CCW permits here in Sac County, would have never got them under Cooper. Cooper is no friend to gun rights. It will be interesting to see how James Barnes deals with the CCW issue when campaigning. Lets hope he is crystal clear he supports the current policy, and CCW holders are paying attention.
                  Last edited by wweigle; 11-15-2021, 9:27 AM.

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                  • #10
                    tdp113530
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 539

                    Originally posted by Paladin
                    Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

                    Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green.

                    Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.
                    Yes...because the Democrats have done so much for this State and Country.

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                    • #11
                      robertfchew
                      Member
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 263

                      Originally posted by tdp113530
                      Yes...because the Democrats have done so much for this State and Country.
                      Unless something drastically changes I will never vote for another democrat. Made that mistake many times in my youth.

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                      • #12
                        pacrat
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2014
                        • 10279

                        Originally posted by Paladin
                        Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

                        Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green. "YELLOW" at best, with a few Light Green slipping through earlier. Now under stricter scrutiny NO MAS.

                        Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.
                        FIFY
                        Last edited by pacrat; 11-15-2021, 10:05 PM.

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                        • #13
                          NATEWA
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 5977

                          VOTE for Barnes!

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                          • #14
                            Ron Jeremey
                            Member
                            • Jan 2021
                            • 326

                            Originally posted by Paladin
                            Livingston in CoCoCo, Ahern in Alameda Co, Smith in Santa Clara Co, Brown in Santa Barbara Co and MacDonnell, former sheriff of Los Angeles County are ALL Republicans and ALL are/were anti CCWs.

                            Dem Essick took over in Sonoma Co and took it Dark Green. Dem Villanueva took over in LA Co and took it to Light Green.

                            Go by their stance on the 2nd A and GC for CCWs, not party.
                            It seems that a very well reasoned argument here went over a few heads. It's sad to see partisanship go that deep.

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