Who are the viable gun friendly gubernatorial Candidates for CA?

[CandG]

There are more republicans in California than in any other state by a large margin.

Unfortunately, there are also 5 million more democrats than republicans here.

On the other hand, if every registered republican actually voted while the number of registered dems voting remained mostly unchanged, we'd actually win some stuff every once in a while.

[BluNorthern]

People don't like to be told what to believe?? Isn't that exactly what the Dems push....abortion is good, transgender is good, illegal aliens are good...or you're a misogynist, bigoted racist?

"The next GOP governor of CA (if we ever have one), will be the one who holds STRONG leftist positions on religion, birth control, and pot"

So, you don't believe is following ones convictions, just throw ones principles out the window.

Disgusting...but explains a lot.

This x100

Been saying this for years. As long as the CA GOP are viewed as old white men who want to force creationism to be taught in schools and ban birth control and gay rights, they will always have a 0% chance of winning. It won't matter, in the least bit, that their economic and public safety policies are better. People don't like like being told what to believe, and I don't understand why it is taking the GOP (as a whole) so long to understand that. Cant's teach and old dog new tricks, I guess.

The next GOP governor of CA (if we ever have one), will be the one who holds STRONG leftist positions on religion, birth control, and pot, while holding proper GOP positions on things that actually matter, like economic and public safety policy.

[CandG]

So, you don't believe is following ones convictions, just throw ones principles out the window.

Disgusting...but explains a lot.

Actually yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. One should not be using one's principles and one's convictions when instituting public policy.

If someone who happens to share my personal principles and convictions actually wins the governorship of CA, then that would be great, but that's 100% unrealistic in today's culture in CA. Either change the culture, or get a candidate who aligns more closely with it, those are the two choices, there isn't a 3rd choice to pick from. Sorry you believe thinking realistically is disgusting.

[BluNorthern]

Actually yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. One should not be using one's principles and one's convictions when instituting public policy.

what the Dems push....abortion is good, transgender is good, illegal aliens are good...or you're a misogynist, bigoted racist?

So how is my quote not Democrat/liberal principles and convictions NOT instituting public policy...or should I say social engineering?

[CandG]

So how is my quote not Democrat/liberal principles and convictions NOT instituting public policy...or should I say social engineering?

With regard to abortion, gay rights, and pot, I don't see the unwinding of those policies, which were instituted based on principles and convictions at the time they were implemented, as being synonymous with implementing new policies. Rather, it's just deleting old (social engineering) policies, in favor of personal freedom for people to do whatever they personally believe in. Immigration is a different issue, that is a very real economic and public safety issue, and as such I absolutely agree with you that it's one of the issues the GOP can't give in to.

Part of the reason young Californians largely hate the GOP so much is because they are seen as hypocrites. The GOP stands on a platform of Smaller government, more freedom (unless we don't agree with what you want to do, in which case 'larger government, less freedom'). That platform seems to be working ok for us in some parts of the country but it isn't going to work here.

[bigstick61]

If a Republican shifts Left on the issues and repudiates Christianity, what makes him different than a Democrat?

[bigstick61]

The key to flipping this state is to flip the Mexicans. Mexicans are not Liberals.

They are conservative, but have been ignored by The RNC and candidates.

If they were approached and given something that they wanted they would vote for Republicans. They voted overwhelmingly against Prop 8 the Gay Marriage thing. Then *******s got it overturned in court, despite being shot down by over 65 % of the vote..

One thing you can spread about Gavin Newscumb is that he is an Adulterous Man Whore. All it takes to convict him is someone to come forward and do a Harvey Weinstein on him. Plenty will follow, as there is plenty of victims out there. The guy can't keep his dick in his pants and that's why he's not married to Kimberly Guilfoyle any more.

We can win, we just need people to stop saying it can't happen.

Randy.

LOL, most Hispanics are not conservatives. The danger of mass Hispanic immigration is that most are culturally inclined towards Leftism or even outright socialism, and this persists through generations. Sure, they might have some socially conservative views that might manifest themselves on specific issues in ballot measures, but it does not translate to voting for conservatives. What they want is detrimental to the country and it's why Democrats will be appealing to most of them. In order to appeal to them, you have to adopt a largely Leftist platform. This is also a big part of why the Democrats support such mass immigration, amnesty, etc., especially since with birthright citizenship the next generation will be Democrat voters even if the parents never get legal status. The demographics issue in this State and the country as a whole is one of the defining socio-political issues of our day, and will likely determine the political fate of this country. The present circumstances do not bode well.

[bigstick61]

Actually yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. One should not be using one's principles and one's convictions when instituting public policy.

If someone who happens to share my personal principles and convictions actually wins the governorship of CA, then that would be great, but that's 100% unrealistic in today's culture in CA. Either change the culture, or get a candidate who aligns more closely with it, those are the two choices, there isn't a 3rd choice to pick from. Sorry you believe thinking realistically is disgusting.

It's fine for Democrats, though, right?

You do realize that all laws and political action derives from some form of morality or conviction, right? If not, well, that is how it works. It comes down to a question of which set of moral principles will be the basis for the laws.

Lack of principles or holding the wrong principles is bad for everyone. And if a Republican has to become a Leftist of some stripe or another in order to win, then there is no point in winning, because in reality we still lose. All that changes is the letter next to the name.

The reality is that no sound candidate is likely to win a gubernatorial election in California for the foreseeable future, perhaps for my lifetime or beyond (and I'm a millennial, and therefore young).

[warbird]

republicans need to get their noses out of the bible, get off their knees in church and go outside, and start proving they are out for the good of all citizens and then they might have a chance in california. republicans whine all day and retreat to their country clubs if they are rich enough to have one. It is not about anything but teh preservation of our rights no matter what side of the coin you land on.

[bigstick61]

republicans need to get their noses out of the bible, get off their knees in church and go outside, and start proving they are out for the good of all citizens and then they might have a chance in california. republicans whine all day and retreat to their country clubs if they are rich enough to have one. It is not about anything but teh preservation of our rights no matter what side of the coin you land on.

How is reading the Bible and believing it, and kneeling in church show that they are not out for the good of all citizens. Some of you act like being a practicing Christian and applying those principles to political beliefs means that we are not acting for the good of all citizens or for the commonweal. It's a downright absurd notion, one that is so patently false that it is sad that this bears repeating.

It's interesting how without the Christian component of Western Civilization the cause for individual liberty would not have had its character or succeeded, but somehow we're treated like we're the devil by some people. Way too many with that mentality here in California. Its ridiculous.

[ajb78]

The key to flipping this state is to flip the Mexicans. Mexicans are not Liberals.

They are conservative, but have been ignored by The RNC and candidates.

If they were approached and given something that they wanted they would vote for Republicans. They voted overwhelmingly against Prop 8 the Gay Marriage thing. Then *******s got it overturned in court, despite being shot down by over 65 % of the vote..
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Randy.

Their view on Prop 8 was probably more due to the Catholic background of most Hispanics, than them actually being conservative.

[Sikvenum93]

If a Republican shifts Left on the issues and repudiates Christianity, what makes him different than a Democrat?

[bigstick61]

In its own way, it does. If something is wrong and unjust, it should not be done, and it is wrong to stay silent about such things.

Conservatism is a conservative form of true liberalism that uses Christianity as its main foundation for its general (and by extension political) philosophy. The two are not really separable.

The idea of lowering taxes is farcical without also lowering spending, which means going after things that Leftists hold dear, including addressing the provider state (which should not exist to begin with, but that's another matter). If that's all we really have as a platform, plus economic interventions (which aren't necessarily compatible with conservatism or economic liberalism) to "create jobs" or "make college affordable" (which is an issue with a non-economic reason for existing and can't be addressed using only economic means), then we really don't have much of a platform. Californians, even many on the Left, may not like taxes, but they like all of that other stuff that's bad at least as much.

If one has to repudiate most of what's right and just in order to hold office, what's the point? And since the cabinet is, stupidly, directly elected and the legislature is prone to Democratic supermajorities now (in the case of the Senate, we can thank the unconstitutional Reynolds v. Sims ruling for that), I don't see what a Centre-Left Republican governor can really expect to accomplish that is meaningful and lasting, especially when viewed from a conservative perspective.

What California needs are institutional checks and balances which we will never get now (some of which we used to have, but again, were taken away by the Warren Court). The only other good alternative is separation. Connect LA and some adjacent urban areas to the Bay Area, Stockton, Sacramento, and some adjacent strong blue areas with a coastal strip and let that be its own State and the rest gets to go its own way and a chance to start from scratch with new constitution. Also not likely, but probably slightly better, if still quite remote, odds. This State is screwed.

[stator]

A lot of illogical rationalizations here on voting democrat, plus misguided keys to change California for the better. There's only one change needed which is to overturn Reynolds vs Sims which allowed mob rule from the big cities.

Which is what our founding fathers were afraid of, and why we are not a democratic nation and why we have the US Senate.

[bigstick61]

A lot of illogical rationalizations here on voting democrat, plus misguided keys to change California for the better. There's only one change needed which is to overturn Reynolds vs Sims which allowed mob rule from the big cities.

Which is what our founding fathers were afraid of, and why we are not a democratic nation and why we have the US Senate.

While I'd love to see States defy the rulings in the Reapportionment Cases, which were blatantly unconstitutional to begin with (and represent bad political ideology), it's too late for California. Even if they were overturned or States were getting away with violating them left and right, the Democrats will never go for it. They would stand to lose power.

Under our old Senate arrangement, it would still be possible today for Republicans to win a small Senate majority, and pretty much impossible for Democrats to get a supermajority. The Democrats would not tolerate restoring that, and I don't think an initiative amendment would succeed, even though that arrangement (which was close to one-county, one Senator, but not quite) was the result of an initiative amendment with overwhelming bipartisan support.