Kasler list thought

[armandolo]

I just had a thought. What whould happen to the Kasler list if manufacturers of banned lowers sued to state stating that similar spec loweres are sold in state (ie Stag, RRA, S/W etc) and all the list does is prevent the manufacturers from doing business in CA selling similar product thus limiting consumer choice. I see two possible outcomes of this.

A. Kasler will be deemed unconstitutional
B. other loweres will be added to the list.

What are your thoughts. Maybe there is a lawyer who can shed a light into this. I'm gonna assume I'm wrong since none of the banned loweres sued. But still any though on this is interesting

[moulton]

I just had a thought. What whould happen to the Keslar list if manufacturers of banned lowers sued to state stating that similar spec loweres are sold in state (ie Stag, RRA, S/W etc) and all the list does is prevent the manufacturers from doing business in CA selling similar product thus limiting consumer choice. I see two possible outcomes of this.

A. Keslar will be deemed unconstitutional
B. other loweres will be added to the list.

What are your thoughts. Maybe there is a lawyer who can shed a light into this. I'm gonna assume I'm wrong since none of the banned loweres sued. But still any though on this is interesting

They would loose a large market for selling their uppers

[toolman9000]

I...
B. other loweres will be added to the list.

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AB2728

[armandolo]

AB2728

Exactly... SO the logical outcome is choice A. Get rid of the list.

[ptoguy2002]

What about the non-ARs on the list, where there isn't a clone?
This would still all be valid.

[RRangel]

It's Kasler!

[armandolo]

It's Kasler!

Fixed it thanks

[DedEye]

From what I understand, this thought has already occurred to some of The Right People. I imagine if anything is going to happen related to it that it will come after incorporation.

[M. Sage]

What about the non-ARs on the list, where there isn't a clone?
This would still all be valid.

Doesn't matter. In CA, when a law gets tossed, it's the entire thing. If we got Kasler tossed on its ear, it would be the whole list.

[bwiese]

This is just *one* of the reasons the CA AWB can be taken down - there are a multiplicity of reasons, and the siutation became magnified thru the huge # of OLL sales and the DOJ FD/BoF positions-du-jour. Some of these problems relate back to the orig Roberti-Roos structure and the lack of certain DOJ actions at certain times.

The risk was that even though there is no severability, a bad judge might just strike a section - and the fight over that works its way up the appeals chain for years.

Incorporation first, then we start flicking the dominoes and see how they fall.

[yellowfin]

Probably go after the approved pistol list first, but maybe that's just my thinking. It seems to have much more of an egregious burden.

[bwiese]

Probably go after the approved pistol list first, but maybe that's just my thinking. It seems to have much more of an egregious burden.

No, because we can still get a variety of good handguns - and we can always adapt 85+% of the non-Rostered guns to single-action revolver or single-shot pistol. I'm looking into how easy it will be for someone to mfgr/sell a line of 7+" .25ACP barrel inserts for 9mm & up pistols.

By contrast, the CA AW law actually causes ordinary people to go to jail, and I'm tired of seing 53 yr old plumbers in Gustine being popped for felony AW charges for a law they never heard of - and then having to spend $5K-$10K in legal fees to get charges reduced.

[yellowfin]

No, because we can still get a variety of good handguns - and we can always adapt 85+% of the non-Rostered guns to single-action revolver or single-shot pistol. I'm looking into how easy it will be for someone to mfgr/sell a line of 7+" .25ACP barrel inserts for 9mm & up pistols.

Chalk me up for a couple if you can get it going fast...there's a deal on S&W 6906's I hate missing because of this nonsense list.