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OLL legal in AZ right?
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I have one question that I am very curious about. If a person buys all of the pieces to make a full auto M16, but doesn't assemble it, is it still illegal ?sigpic "This we'll defend"- U.S. Army Motto
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Last edited by Annie Oakley; 09-20-2008, 7:32 PM.sigpic "This we'll defend"- U.S. Army Motto
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Hm, okay, I think BCG= Bolt Carrier Group
Fire control parts, would be trigger, sear, and selector switch.
And lastly I'm assuming the lower receiver that you can you can put all of these things in ? Did I get it right ?sigpic "This we'll defend"- U.S. Army Motto
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Annie, to stay safe from the Feds (and CA, which has laws roughly echoing the Feds), don't possess:
- FA fire control parts (for ARs, trigger/sear/FA disco(?)/selector);
- short bbl (unless you own a legit matching pistol or pistol receiver;
- if you have AR pistol *only* but no AR rifle/rifle rcvr, don't own a buttstock/receiver extension tube;
For ARs, don't have a lower with an extra 'happy hole' either.
(I have less familiarity w/AK receivers, but they seem to be a no-no with a 3rd hole near the trigger, which is prompting certain Saiga designs to be recalled - there's a very recent thread about this somewhere here.)
'Constructive possession' applies, generally speaking, to those items under your ownership/control - lack of assembly into the gun doesn't matter, nor does separation/distance (i.e, sear in your Maine vacation home with the gun in your CA home).
It's legit to have M16 FA bolt carriers in your semiauto AR, various AR mfgrs ship this way.Last edited by bwiese; 09-20-2008, 7:59 PM.
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Thank you Bill. I was reading the whole OLL thingy, and so I was naturally curious just what I could have and still be legal. I'm not sure what a "happy hole is", so I will ask, what is it ? Anyway, reading some of the posts from the guys about building their own made me miss shooting one. I may be in the market soon and so I will probably have alot more questions.Annie, to stay safe from the Feds (and CA, which has laws roughly echoing the Feds), don't possess:
- FA fire control parts (for ARs, trigger/sear/FA disco(?)/selector);
- short bbl (unless you own a legit matching pistol or pistol receiver;
- if you have AR pistol *only* but no AR rifle/rifle rcvr, don't own a buttstock/receiver extension tube;
For ARs, don't have a lower with an extra 'happy hole' either.
(I have less familiarity w/AK receivers, but they seem to be a no-no with a 3rd hole near the trigger, which is prompting certain Saiga designs to be recalled - there's a very recent thread about this somewhere here.)
'Constructive possession' applies, generally speaking, to those items under your ownership/control - lack of assembly into the gun doesn't matter, nor does separation/distance (i.e, sear in your Maine vacation home with the gun in your CA home).
It's legit to have M16 FA bolt carriers in your semiauto AR, various AR mfgrs ship this way.
Oh btw, what's an FA disco ? And where does it go ?
Oh, almost forgot, I saw a complete rifle at Turners when I bought my little SA XD, but the magazine well was all closed up. Could I just switch that lower for one with an open magazine well ?Last edited by Annie Oakley; 09-20-2008, 8:23 PM.sigpic "This we'll defend"- U.S. Army Motto
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Annie- The "happpy hole" is the whole which would allow a lower receiver to accept full auto fire control group.
FA disco would be full auto disconnecter.
Thanks Bill forgot the BCG (bolt carrier group) is OK
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