POLL: Should colleges and universities allow students to carry concealed weapons?

[Eldraque]

idk, college students are pretty ****in dumb. It's kind of a recipe for disaster. Does anyone really want a bunch of entitled wealthy intoxicated 20 year olds carrying?

Way to stereotype. Because there are no motivated, responsible, mature, hard working college students right?

[Master_P]

72% yes out of 4040 votes!

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

72% yes out of 4040 votes!

I'm betting whoever started this poll is pretty PO'ed.

[SC_SD]

I'm betting whoever started this poll is pretty PO'ed.

The UT is a conservative paper, so I'm guessing they are not.

[Go Navy]

Yes, of course. Right to carry is just that....right to carry. The 2nd Amendment says "bear arms". Not "bare arms", not "bury arms", not "arm bears".

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I like a lot of the comments posted there. Surprisingly well written, for the most part. The few antis that have chimed in seem to have gotten themselves thoroughly, but politely flattened.

-Mb

[Noble Cause]

Just checked results again to see if any changes:

Should colleges and universities allow students
to carry concealed weapons?

YES 72% (3014)
NO 27% (1126)

Total 4140

Noble

[Sutcliffe]

The poll really does nothing

Your rights(all of them) are not really something schools recognize. My campus will let you exercise your 1st Amendment rights only if you follow the rules:
You must clear it with the Dean's Office, you cannot shout or use a bullhorn, you must pre approve your march route and then you must hold your event on a particular side(outdoors) of the student union.
That is how they neuter your first Amendment rights. Who knows what they will do to other rights they don't like.
The Courts seem to back this up.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

Your rights(all of them) are not really something schools recognize...

...That is how they neuter your first Amendment rights. Who knows what they will do to other rights they don't like.
The Courts seem to back this up.

I'm assuming that your school is private property?

Even Calguns.net neuters (your) 1A rights at times.

What's your point?

A.W.D.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

It sounds like your school is simply exercising their private property rights. They are limiting the venue, but not what you can say. And they both have the right to do so, and the responsibility to their other students to keep ever crackpot from coming on to their campus and interfering with the education that the students are paying for. Universities are businesses with the job of providing education (well, supposedly, anyway). They are not some bully pulpit for people to come and annoy others with random protests in the library or other areas where people are trying to learn. I wouldn't want to have to put up with idiots showing up and shouting at me when I am trying to do my thing either. As long as they aren't discriminating against any particular group or viewpoint, I don't really care.

-Mb

[CBruce]

http://www.utsandiego.com/polls/2014/aug/should-colleges-and-universities-allow-students-ca/

No question. Unless a place has control over access, installs it's own security systems and personnel, and accepts full legal responsibility for the safety of any and every individual on their property, then they shouldn't interfere with an individual's right to protect themselves and others.

[Sutcliffe]

So private property rights trump the BOR?

And what about the infamous 'Bong hits for Jesus' where a student was punished for doing something off school property and outside the school day?
The Supreme Court seemed to think that his rights to free speech were dependant on what the local school board's interpretation was.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

No question. Unless a place has control over access, installs it's own security systems and personnel, and accepts full legal responsibility for the safety of any and every individual on their property, then they shouldn't interfere with an individual's right to protect themselves and others.

Colleges and universities are PRIVATE PROPERTY and BUSINESSES that the student CHOOSES to do business with - UNDER THE TERMS OF THE SCHOOL.

Don't like the rules, go get educated somewhere else.

A.W.D.

[greensoup]

I work for SDSU at one of the remote stations, and have been accosted by not just wild animals, but by humans, both legally and illegally in this country, that were armed, and all I've been allowed to carry is pepper/cs spray because the station is considered an extension of the university. The nearest law officer is nominally 15 to 30 minutes away minimum...

I voted yes in the poll. Please vote to support those of us hindered by needless laws that put my life in danger because of the unforseen consequences that come due to these laws.

Where are these remote SDSU locations, like an off campus remote site in the desert? That would suck.

[desert dog]

Yawn...

I lived on a UC campus where my wife was a police officer until a couple of years ago. I've also worked at a number of fire stations that served various college campuses. I've seen and heard of plenty of stupid stunts done by kids who should be still living with their parents, much less carrying carrying a gun.

Your can save the "halls will run red with blood" pontification for someone who will fall for it.

So, how many incidents have happened in the 7 states that allow CCW on their campuses???? My son carries at one such university.

Sounds like your time living on a university among the California hoplophobes has given you their irrational fear of inanimate objects. But fear not, thousands of students on campuses all over this country are carrying right now and there has never been an incident. Statistically, you should fear the police more than a 20 year old college co-ed carrying a gun.

And are these "stupid" 18-19 year-olds in uniform serving this country to be stripped of their 2nd amendment right too? Thank god your opinion means nothing.