How much $$$ could CCW permits generate throughout CA?

[Lugiahua]

While I don't agree with generating revenue from CCW, I think we can use it as a leverage to gain support from the local government.

My local PD would take first $20 when submit the application, then the remaining $130 if you passed GM/GC part.

[chris]

Local fee is limited to $100. PC 26190(b)(1)

State fee is $44 per 11 CCR 4006.

And then there are the background check costs, the live scan, the training costs ...

too bad my security clearance wont count.

Theoretically that could be raised by legislative action; do we really want to give the State more money, with the additional consequence of pricing some folks out of the ability to exercise a civil right? It's onerous as it is.

we can pretty much count on them pricing this so high only the rich can apply and pay.

[GoZoner]

too bad my security clearance wont count.

we can pretty much count on them pricing this so high only the rich can apply and pay.

If you are denied a CCW because of a psych exam but you passed a recent security clearance psych exam, I'd guess the NRA legal team would like to hear about it.

[krammitthefrog]

The fee can only be what is necessary for costs.

You don't think they actually follow that logic do you?

[CSACANNONEER]

Just think how much the state could make if they issued breathing permits for $20/year. After all, we all should be paying more to CARB, right?

[chris]

If you are denied a CCW because of a psych exam but you passed a recent security clearance psych exam, I'd guess the NRA legal team would like to hear about it.

to my knowledge there is no psych test for a security clearance. as for my clearance will be SECRET if it will be any higher because of the new unit im in I have no idea. my clearance is up this year. they last for 10 years though.

The fee can only be what is necessary for costs.

You don't think they actually follow that logic do you?

they have to know how to use logic first. that alone is an impossible task.

[MagnumDweeb]

Using Florida as an example, during 2008 and 2009, the only part of the government as it was reported that was running a surplus was the Department of Licensing which handles our CWPs here in Florida. There was a record number of applicants (2008 and 2009 were pretty bad in cities like Orlando when it came to crime) and the fee to the state was $117. There was some uproar because the government was siphoning off the surplus for other departments losing their shirts instead of hiring on more people at the Department of Licensing to speed up the issuance of CWPs (what took sixty days was turning into 9 months unless you applied in person at the office instead of mailing in your stuff).

We currently have a million active permits in a population of nineteen million. So maybe you folks will see about 1.5 million active permits within the next few years. We only have to renew every seven years now and it's sixty five bucks, $200 every two years is just ouch.

[Jimi Jah]

Very little compared to what legalized pot will provide.

[e90bmw]

You need a Livescan for each item/issue you're applying for: CCW needs its own, another type of license needs its own. They won't allow you to use a live scan you got last month to coach little league for your CCW.

Exactly correct.
I do a live scan for the Dept of Real Estate, one for Sect of State (Notary) and any others I need for my kids school.

You pay for each one and nobody looks at the one you just did.

[e90bmw]

we can pretty much count on them pricing this so high only the rich can apply and pay.

Then they will end up in court again.
They will not be able to do that.
It slaps of a poll type tax.

SCOTUS has been very stringent in the past about taxes to exercise rights.
The fees can be reasonable for administration but cannot be a hurdle.

This one reason why Ca. dropped the million dollar liability insurance requirement.
I need insurance to exercise my rights???

[zhyla]

Even if it did generate $40M (over 3 years...) in revenue... so what? Our state budget is over $100 BILLION per year. It's like your boss giving your a $20 bonus.

[El Toro]

There is something called "economic churn" that economists use to determine the "good" $1 spent does to a local economy. If I spend a dollar while in Vegas, it actually translates into $3-4 spent because the money gets re-spent by locals at other businesses. It is hard to see that its a good thing because there are factors that have to be considered. But the dollar spent spreads around for the community in which it is spent until its "good" is depleted.

So long as the State isnt an @sshat about fees and requirements, there will be alot of economic churn from 2 million applicants.

[crazyScott90]

Even if it did generate $40M (over 3 years...) in revenue... so what? Our state budget is over $100 BILLION per year. It's like your boss giving your a $20 bonus.

While it may be far less than the state budget, it's still good revenue that the state could certainly use. No single thing is going to solve overnight, the budget issues that CA has. Couple the millions this would bring in over the years with the millions we could get from other sensible policies like legalized cannabis, and it could add up to a ton of money for the state without having to push for more or higher taxes. Plus, having those revenues would make it easier to argue for some spending cuts in certain areas, potentially increasing the utility of CCW and cannabis money even more.

[crazyScott90]

Even if it did generate $40M (over 3 years...) in revenue... so what? Our state budget is over $100 BILLION per year. It's like your boss giving your a $20 bonus.

While it may be far less than the state budget, it's still good revenue that the state could certainly use. No single thing is going to solve the budget issues that CA has. Couple the millions this would bring in over the years with the millions we could get from other sensible policies like legalized cannabis, and it could add up to a ton of money for the state without having to push for more or higher taxes. Plus, having those revenues would make it easier to argue for some spending cuts in certain areas, potentially increasing the utility of CCW and cannabis money even more.

[mej16489]

to my knowledge there is no psych test for a security clearance. as for my clearance will be SECRET if it will be any higher because of the new unit im in I have no idea. my clearance is up this year. they last for 10 years though.
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I've never heard of a psych test for a clearance either....although I think I could successfully argue that a polygraph is largely a psych test

Not all clearances require a poly, not all clearances last 10 years.