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  • Excelsior
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 4215

    How much $$$ could CCW permits generate throughout CA?

    There are what, nearly 40M CA residents? I know the fee for a CCW permit is $200.00 for 2 years (that might not be typical?) where I live.

    If 1% (I'm not saying they will, I am saying "if") of that 40M applied/received CCW permits and the price charged was effectively $100/year, that would equate to $40M in revenue/year.

    At 5% it becomes $200M, at 10% it's $400M/year. There's no question it would create some jobs.

    I wonder how high the $$$ would have to go until they became a material consideration for the different counties of CA?
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  • #2
    General
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 1984

    To dang much.

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    • #3
      Librarian
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      • Oct 2005
      • 44627

      Local fee is limited to $100. PC 26190(b)(1)

      State fee is $44 per 11 CCR 4006.

      And then there are the background check costs, the live scan, the training costs ...

      Theoretically that could be raised by legislative action; do we really want to give the State more money, with the additional consequence of pricing some folks out of the ability to exercise a civil right? It's onerous as it is.
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      • #4
        wildhawker
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 14150

        State fee is $95 as adjusted. Never, ever offer the government more money.
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        • #5
          crazyScott90
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 507

          What is the cost for the psych eval? Do any counties even require it of applicants?

          That would be paid to the guy doing the eval though, right? Doesn't count as revenue for the state.
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          • #6
            pastureofmuppets
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 1805

            We should probably start using the word tax instead of fee for accuracy.

            Taxed upon exercising a right.

            The upside though is how much good it will do for the firearms industry starting here and echoing through the country. We already have a high amount of gun owners DESPITE all the restrictions.

            Think of how many Cali ranges, instructors and FFL's will benefit - not just the instructors selected by issuing agency's for mandated training. Then also it should benefit the sports like IDPA.

            We should probably also get another influx of new shooters as the world of carry opens up, so at least a percentage of that adding to political support.

            I wouldn't be so annoyed by a gun and ammo shortage caused by something this positive happening...
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            • #7
              mag360
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2009
              • 5198

              It should be $0. permit? I dont got to show you no steenkin permit?
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              • #8
                rootuser
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 3018

                Originally posted by Excelsior
                There are what, nearly 40M CA residents? I know the fee for a CCW permit is $200.00 for 2 years (that might not be typical?) where I live.

                If 1% (I'm not saying they will, I am saying "if") of that 40M applied/received CCW permits and the price charged was effectively $100/year, that would equate to $40M in revenue/year.

                At 5% it becomes $200M, at 10% it's $400M/year. There's no question it would create some jobs.

                I wonder how high the $$$ would have to go until they became a material consideration for the different counties of CA?
                Unfortunately just processing alone would make the entire process a money looser.

                I agree with those saying it should not be a money maker. It is NOT a source of revenue for the state. If it has to be subsidized by DROS fees etc so be it. I do not think the price should be raised to make it a revenue neutral endeavor.

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                • #9
                  Excelsior
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4215

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  Local fee is limited to $100. PC 26190(b)(1)

                  State fee is $44 per 11 CCR 4006.

                  And then there are the background check costs, the live scan, the training costs ...

                  Theoretically that could be raised by legislative action; do we really want to give the State more money, with the additional consequence of pricing some folks out of the ability to exercise a civil right? It's onerous as it is.
                  Absolutely.

                  Certainly not more/applicant, but a HUGE number of applicants.
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                  • #10
                    Excelsior
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4215

                    Originally posted by rootuser
                    Unfortunately just processing alone would make the entire process a money looser.

                    I agree with those saying it should not be a money maker. It is NOT a source of revenue for the state. If it has to be subsidized by DROS fees etc so be it. I do not think the price should be raised to make it a revenue neutral endeavor.
                    How would you know? I realize that gov't is horridly inefficient but I doubt your belief is true on that one.
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                    • #11
                      GoZoner
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 631

                      Zero. Because over time the Gov't has usurped the power to regulate doesn't mean they actually can.
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                      • #12
                        Drivedabizness
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2610

                        The fee can only be what is necessary for costs.

                        As Brandon said, never try to sell government on something because it will be a source of revenue. And if they manage the program properly (after they deal with the initial deluge due to pent up demand) little to no "extra" staffing should be needed.
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                        • #13
                          AregularGuy
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                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2791

                          Originally posted by crazyScott90
                          What is the cost for the psych eval? Do any counties even require it of applicants?

                          That would be paid to the guy doing the eval though, right? Doesn't count as revenue for the state.
                          $150 here in Alameda county. It's required for the process of application in this county.
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                          • #14
                            CitaDeL
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2007
                            • 5843

                            Carry licenses should not generate any revenue.

                            That would be like asking how much revenue can we generate by charging admission to vote.



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                            • #15
                              Connman
                              Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 433

                              Originally posted by wildhawker
                              State fee is $95 as adjusted. Never, ever offer the government more money.
                              ditto! They will take our money other ways if they desire. Microstamping, DROS fees etc....

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