How much $$$ could CCW permits generate throughout CA?

[Tarn_Helm]

Click it.

What is the cost for the psych eval? Do any counties even require it of applicants?

That would be paid to the guy doing the eval though, right? Doesn't count as revenue for the state.

Yes, L.A. does: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...0&postcount=65

[gbran]

Here in Kern County I pay $52 for DOJ and $10 for Kern County. My refresher class is $50.

[glockman19]

In the end you can't charge for exercising an Inalienable Right. The best they will be able to do is charge a nominal "registration fee".

[GoZoner]

So only people with money to spare can are entitled to personal defense?

[CharlesV]

So only people with money to spare can are entitled to personal defense?

I dont get you. Only people with money to spare can buy a firearm in the first place, so what are you suggesting, all guns/related FREE in the cause of personal rights and defense?

Ok that was a little tongue in cheek. It comes to this. Based on laws (including those just for for sake of attacks on the 2nd Am.), expect the cost of ownership to steadily rise until a different set of folks occupy legislative offices.

I wouldnt spend a DIME on CCW. If you want to pay for something, put ALL into political action and change of Sacramento ownership.

[the_natterjack]

CGF emails suggest that ccw permits may reach 1.4 million in the first year.

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of billion dollars isn't spent on state mandated training and psych evaluations, guns, gear, and ammo in the next couple of years.

Lots of people are going to make money, very good for our economy.

- Brian

There are what, nearly 40M CA residents? I know the fee for a CCW permit is $200.00 for 2 years (that might not be typical?) where I live.

If 1% (I'm not saying they will, I am saying "if") of that 40M applied/received CCW permits and the price charged was effectively $100/year, that would equate to $40M in revenue/year.

At 5% it becomes $200M, at 10% it's $400M/year. There's no question it would create some jobs.

I wonder how high the $$$ would have to go until they became a material consideration for the different counties of CA?

[GoZoner]

CGF emails suggest that ccw permits may reach 1.4 million in the first year.

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of billion dollars isn't spent on state mandated training and psych evaluations, guns, gear, and ammo in the next couple of years.

Lots of people are going to make money, very good for our economy.

- Brian

The permitting process should be free; any money spent on a permit would be better spent on meals, toys, cars, housing improvements, etc - not padding the Gov't coffers that will be further used to deny rights.

[mag360]

Carry licenses should not generate any revenue.

That would be like asking how much revenue can we generate by charging admission to vote.

exactly. Now that the courts are "getting it"

i.e. how many burdens can we place on a right? it is going to be hard to justify a cost to exercise the 2nd amendment from the governments perspective.

[mej16489]

Yes, L.A. does: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...0&postcount=65

LA County doesn't require psych evals - the app simply points out that they have the legislative authority to require one (and fail to point out that it must be uniformly of all applicants)

[shafferds]

Well it could cause more people or less people in jail because of well stupid people making dumb choices.

[Syntax Error]

And then there are the background check costs, the live scan, the training costs ...

Curious about the live scan - would people with a valid COE have to pay for another live scan, or would that count as the live scan since to get a COE, you have to do a live scan?

[Doheny]

Curious about the live scan - would people with a valid COE have to pay for another live scan, or would that count as the live scan since to get a COE, you have to do a live scan?

You need a Livescan for each item/issue you're applying for: CCW needs its own, another type of license needs its own. They won't allow you to use a live scan you got last month to coach little league for your CCW.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

Do any counties even require it of applicants?

$150 here in Alameda county. It's required for the process of application in this county.

Yes, L.A. does: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...0&postcount=65

And in Orange County...

Interesting though.

If anything more than "for self defense" has been ruled a no-no for issuance, isn't a psych evaluation an even bigger issue standing in the way of the applicant - or at least equally too much to ask?

Have we addressed that anywhere yet?

A.W.D.

[crazyScott90]

And in Orange County...

Interesting though.

If anything more than "for self defense" has been ruled a no-no for issuance, isn't a psych evaluation an even bigger issue standing in the way of the applicant - or at least equally too much to ask?

Have we addressed that anywhere yet?

A.W.D.

I don't think there are currently any challenges to the psych eval. It's definitely a nuisance though. ~$150 and an appointment with the county shrink, which translates to another way of delaying applicants.

How would we go about challenging the psych eval? Most counties don't even bother with it, right? Because of that, it would probably have to be challenged in a county that requires it? Argue 14th amendment violations since some counties require it and others don't? Or even better, if we caught a county requiring it from some people but not others?

It would be great if we could actually pass CCW reform legislation. Forgetting the good cause stuff for a while, our process could really use a serious reform. Force some true standardization, eliminate permit restrictions, eliminate the listing of handguns on the permit, eliminate the psych eval, do something about the interviews and quals as well. Make a permit valid for 4 years instead of 2, and make the renewal easier.

[the_natterjack]

Yup, permits should only be at "cost" but for the time being most people will pay the amount they are asking, then fix it later.

The permitting process should be free; any money spent on a permit would be better spent on meals, toys, cars, housing improvements, etc - not padding the Gov't coffers that will be further used to deny rights.