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  • #16
    CCWFacts
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 6168

    Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
    The same reason I spent $850 and bought my first handgun.

    An on going life-threatening situation where police were of little to no help. You can earn another $500 to $850, but getting another life isn't so easy.
    Yeah, but this permit does no good for an ongoing situation. It's good for 90 days (at most) and it can take 6 months or more to get it, if it's issued at all. And it's temporary, so they could reasonably say, "we don't issue them for ongoing situations".

    This permit will only give you coverage for a small fraction of the year, if you get it at all. If your life is really in immediate danger from a real and elevated threat, either get a resident CCW (if you can) or weigh the risks of getting busted for carrying without a CCW vs. the risks of being a victim of whatever the situation is.
    "Weakness is provocative."
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    • #17
      Beelzy
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2008
      • 9224

      C'mon now........The State would not have a permit for statewide carry with
      no catch of some kind.

      The catch is: even though the permit is for state-wide use, the actual moment that the permit is required for is the restriction. An example, you need a gun for safety when handling bank deposits, ok, you get a permit.
      But it doesn't mean its ok for use for defense somewhere else necessarily.
      Catch 22 for the CCW permit holders.
      "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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      • #18
        GuyW
        Banned
        • Dec 2002
        • 4298

        Originally posted by Beelzy
        C'mon now........The State would not have a permit for statewide carry with
        no catch of some kind.

        The catch is: even though the permit is for state-wide use, the actual moment that the permit is required for is the restriction. An example, you need a gun for safety when handling bank deposits, ok, you get a permit.
        But it doesn't mean its ok for use for defense somewhere else necessarily.
        Catch 22 for the CCW permit holders.

        This is incomprehensible FUD...

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        • #19
          Beelzy
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2008
          • 9224

          Well that would figure, I heard it from a guy at the sheriff dept. handling
          the permits.
          "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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          • #20
            Glock22Fan
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2006
            • 5752

            Originally posted by Beelzy
            Well that would figure, I heard it from a guy at the sheriff dept. handling
            the permits.

            Well, if you reported it as he said it, that would be true. But did he really make that little sense without you questioning it?

            Permits don't have to have restrictions. Maybe, in your area, if you want a permit because you take cash to the bank, your permit might be endorsed "Only while taking cash to the bank." However, usually the permit is NOT restricted and you can indeed use it wherever and whenever you need to.
            John -- bitter gun owner.

            All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
            I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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            • #21
              Beelzy
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2008
              • 9224

              Permits don't have to have restrictions. Maybe, in your area, if you want a permit because you take cash to the bank, your permit might be endorsed "Only while taking cash to the bank." However, usually the permit is NOT restricted and you can indeed use it wherever and whenever you need to.[/QUOTE]

              They must not have liked me then. It happens.
              "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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              • #22
                Casual Observer
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1400

                Originally posted by Glock22Fan
                If your need is that great, I suspect most people would go illegal and carry without a permit. (Note, I'm not recommending this, but, in some circumstances, I can understand it)
                Unlicensed concealed carry is a simple misdomeanor if
                A- the gun is yours (registered)
                B- it is your first firearms offense
                C- you do not fit the legal definition of a gang member (yes, there is one)


                Also, the law provides an exception for immediate dangerous situations. i.e.- your car breaks down in the ghetto or some rural highway where you are concerned for your safety. You're allowed to lock and load (assuming you have the gun with you) and carry it while waiting for the tow truck to arrive.

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                • #23
                  Glock22Fan
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2006
                  • 5752

                  Originally posted by Casual Observer
                  Unlicensed concealed carry is a simple misdomeanor if
                  A- the gun is yours (registered)
                  B- it is your first firearms offense
                  C- you do not fit the legal definition of a gang member (yes, there is one)


                  Also, the law provides an exception for immediate dangerous situations. i.e.- your car breaks down in the ghetto or some rural highway where you are concerned for your safety. You're allowed to lock and load (assuming you have the gun with you) and carry it while waiting for the tow truck to arrive.

                  Thank you, I presume that you have posted this for the benefit of those of us that don't know it.

                  Even then, it is likely to be two misdemeanors (loaded and concealed are separate) and cost you maybe $10K and a ban on owning guns for maybe ten years. As I said, if you really are threatened, I can understand you taking that risk, but it is still illegal except for your last point. And BTW on that, you are required to notify law enforcement immediately and only have your firearm loaded until they arrive.
                  John -- bitter gun owner.

                  All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                  I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                  • #24
                    matarlegoate
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 50

                    My Placer county CCW had a restriction that seems to be standard for them- it said something to the effect of: Permit not valid in a place the primarily serves alcohol.

                    They phrased it better, but I can't remember exactly what it said. They explained to me that they didn't want people drinking in a bar with a gun and making bad (drunken) decisions later.

                    Kind of goes along with other states that I've been to where you can't carry a firearm if more 51% or more of their business revenues come from alcohol sales.

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