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  • AaronHorrocks
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1944

    CCW only valid in county that it's issued?

    I keep hearing from certain people that a California CCW is only valid in the county that it's issued in.

    What? Why do they call it a California CCW then?

    Is this true? I don't believe it!

    Please cite any specific law and source it.
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  • #2
    s2000news
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 995

    Never heard that before.
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    • #3
      bulgron
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 2783

      It's not true. There's just a lot of people out there with really bad information and who are more than happy to spread that bad information to anyone who will listen.

      California CCWs are valid state-wide. I know of no exceptions to this rule.
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      • #4
        Knauga
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 1383



        Like it says, state of California.

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        • #5
          CSDGuy
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 3763

          CCW's issued by to a non-resident of a county would only be good for 90 days and good only in the county that it's issued in. Basically, it's issued to a person who needs a CCW, lives in another county than the business, and the business/place of employment is the reason for the CCW.

          PC 12050 (a) (2) (A)
          (ii) If the licensee's place of employment or business was the
          basis for issuance of the license pursuant to subparagraph (A) of
          paragraph (1), the license is valid for any period of time not to
          exceed 90 days from the date of the license. The license shall be
          valid only in the county in which the license was originally issued.

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          • #6
            CCWFacts
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2007
            • 6168

            Originally posted by CSDGuy
            CCW's issued by to a non-resident of a county would only be good for 90 days and good only in the county that it's issued in. Basically, it's issued to a person who needs a CCW, lives in another county than the business, and the business/place of employment is the reason for the CCW.
            Non-resident CCWs are basically never issued.

            It is possible for an issuing authority to write any type of restriction on a CCW, and some did write "only in county" restrictions on them, but I don't hear about it happening lately.
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            • #7
              Decoligny
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2008
              • 10615

              They could also be confusing this with the Open Carry permit which is only issued in counties with a population of less than 200,000 and only good in the county of issue.

              The fact that to anyones knowledge no Open Carry permit has ever been issued is beside the fact.
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              • #8
                CSDGuy
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 3763

                Originally posted by CCWFacts
                Non-resident CCWs are basically never issued.

                It is possible for an issuing authority to write any type of restriction on a CCW, and some did write "only in county" restrictions on them, but I don't hear about it happening lately.
                I have also heard of these 90 day CCW's being rarely issued. Last year, or so, outgoing SSD Sheriff Lou Blanas approved a 90 Day that somehow got issued as a standard 2 year version. Sheriff McGinness revoked it as soon as it was discovered that the person it was issued to hadn't taken the training. It may have been a temporary "emergency" kind of 90 day permit, with a "go get trained" and we'll approve a 2 year CCW for you. At around that time, McGinness basically made it almost impossible to get a CCW. It was hard before... now it's supposed to be even more difficult.

                IOW: 90 day permits are supposed to be very rare.

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                • #9
                  CSDGuy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3763

                  Originally posted by Decoligny
                  They could also be confusing this with the Open Carry permit which is only issued in counties with a population of less than 200,000 and only good in the county of issue.

                  The fact that to anyones knowledge no Open Carry permit has ever been issued is beside the fact.
                  Exactly. Not too many counties have >200,000 persons in them... and they're all rural anyway. Easier to issue a CCW

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                  • #10
                    tenpercentfirearms
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 13007

                    An issuing agency could make that a limitation as the conditions of the permit. I haven't heard of that happening. I have heard of Bakersfield City limiting carry only to and from the business, to the bank, to your home. That is why I have a Kern County permit. Anywhere in California baby!
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                    • #11
                      RomanDad
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3478

                      Mine is good state wide.
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                      • #12
                        Glock22Fan
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2006
                        • 5752

                        I have also heard of these 90 day CCW's being rarely issued.
                        Why would anyone spend $500 or so, do all the training and wait maybe a year or so to get a non-renewable permit that only lasts 90 days?
                        John -- bitter gun owner.

                        All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                        I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                        • #13
                          AaronHorrocks
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1944

                          The same reason I spent $850 and bought my first handgun.

                          An on going life-threatening situation where police were of little to no help. You can earn another $500 to $850, but getting another life isn't so easy.
                          Originally posted by nick
                          Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                          Originally posted by M. Sage
                          I support violence against communists.

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                          • #14
                            Glock22Fan
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2006
                            • 5752

                            Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                            The same reason I spent $850 and bought my first handgun.

                            An on going life-threatening situation where police were of little to no help. You can earn another $500 to $850, but getting another life isn't so easy.
                            I've spent that much on more than one of my handguns, but I expect those to protect me for well over 90 days.

                            How many people can really say it is worth spending $500 to protect themselves for just 90 days a year or so into the future? And what do you do in the meantime?

                            If your need is that great, I suspect most people would go illegal and carry without a permit. (Note, I'm not recommending this, but, in some circumstances, I can understand it)
                            John -- bitter gun owner.

                            All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                            I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                            • #15
                              Librarian
                              Admin and Poltergeist
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 44627

                              Originally posted by Glock22Fan
                              If your need is that great, I suspect most people would go illegal and carry without a permit. (Note, I'm not recommending this, but, in some circumstances, I can understand it)
                              It would be illegal, but possibly excusable:
                              12025.5. (a) A violation of Section 12025 is justifiable when a
                              person who possesses a firearm reasonably believes that he or she is
                              in grave danger because of circumstances forming the basis of a
                              current restraining order issued by a court against another person or
                              persons
                              who has or have been found to pose a threat to his or her
                              life or safety. This section may not apply when the circumstances
                              involve a mutual restraining order issued pursuant to Division 10
                              (commencing with Section 6200) of the Family Code absent a factual
                              finding of a specific threat to the person's life or safety. It is
                              not the intent of the Legislature to limit, restrict, or narrow the
                              application of current statutory or judicial authority to apply this
                              or other justifications to defendants charged with violating Section
                              12025 or of committing other similar offenses.
                              (b) Upon trial for violating Section 12025, the trier of fact
                              shall determine whether the defendant was acting out of a reasonable
                              belief that he or she was in grave danger.
                              Sell it to the jury, in the right circumstances, and you should be acquitted on CCW without a license.

                              Note how narrow this is: restraining order situations only.
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