Retaking California

[dwightlooi]

[CPRAFAN]

The Republican party is dead in California - Ronald Reagan signed its death warrant when he signed the 1986 amnesty bill and legalized millions of poor illegals who wanted government freebies and welfare more than freedom to own guns. Poor immigrants vote Democrat to get freebies - they will vote Republican if the Republicans will protect their jobs from newbie immigrants - no chance of that since Pete Wilson and Prop 187.

[POLICESTATE]

The Republican party is dead in California - Ronald Reagan signed its death warrant when he signed the 1986 amnesty bill and legalized millions of poor illegals who wanted government freebies and welfare more than freedom to own guns. Poor immigrants vote Democrat to get freebies - they will vote Republican if the Republicans will protect their jobs from newbie immigrants - no chance of that since Pete Wilson and Prop 187.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

[kf6tac]

Prosperity not welfare
Opportunity not entitlement
Low Taxes, Small Government, Free Markets
Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Religious Freedom

We can sell these.

Call me a pessimist, but I don't think you can sell most of these things to the people who see Democrats in the way you describe. The reason they see Democrats as "fair" is because they see welfare and entitlement as a critical component of what it means to be "fair." They see "progress" as a larger government levying increasing taxes on high earners (because they should pay their "fair" share) and intervening in the markets to make them more "fair" and "non-discriminatory." They see those who believe otherwise as needing to be more "educated," because they think any properly "educated" person would agree with them on these points.

[ja308]

I am sorry to say this, but to build a viable Republican Party and recapture California, we must first stop focusing on individual candidates and specific elections. To fight for the 2nd amendment we must first set aside the 2nd amendment. California is too “blue” today for a narrow focus, turn out the base strategy. Most Californians may not be as anti-gun as Yee and Steinberg. They may not vote against you because you are pro 2nd amendment, but you need to give them something else if you want them to vote for you. The problem with the Republican Party in California is the wanton level of false associations that is burying the brand. When an average Californian hear the word Republican – what are the first things that come to their mind?

Old, white, rich, rednecks, racists who are for dirty air, for polluted water, who wants war, hates homosexuals and think the world is flat.

On the other hand, they see the Democrats as “fair”, “peace loving”, “environmentally responsible”, “non-discriminatory”, “democratic” folks who are for "the people", “progress” and “choice”. People who welcomes immigrants, are educated and understands science.

None of the above is particularly true! I know... I am a 1st Generation Immigrant. I am Asian. I came here when I was 22 to go to college. I am an engineering manager by profession. I became a Citizen in 2007. I have been to at least 50 republican events and functions, and about a dozen Tea Party rallys. I am the chair of the local Young Republicans chapter. I have not met ONE racist or one homophobe. I haven’t met anyone who has a problem with the color of my skin or the country of my birth. And, if you are reading this on Calguns you probably know how twisted those seemingly innocuous and fuzzy characterization of the Dems really are. But these preconceptions and stereo types that have been ingrained into the public consciousness by the other side and by the media for are generally of their persuasion.

Most people don’t pay much attention to politics or politicians. The details of this bill or that act means very little. General preconceptions mean everything.

If we want to have a viable Republican Party we need to start working on the image of the brand. That is more important than ANY election or any candidate. Win or lose, all the effort and finances expended on a candidate is gone after the election. Build that foundation; change the underlying perception of the brand and the effects lasts for decades. Yes, we are by an large for the 2nd Amendment, but that is not the first and last thing we are about, nor should it be. You don’t come out on a relatively narrow issue of the 2nd amendment and expect to build the broad based foundation of a revival. The other side didn't get where they are simply by saying "vote for me, I am anti-gun".

We need to come out with a broad message and a viable identity:-

Prosperity not welfare
Opportunity not entitlement
Low Taxes, Small Government, Free Markets
Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Religious Freedom

We can sell these. It beats selling Fiorina or Whitman. It beats selling Romney or McCain. It beats selling whoever your local congressional or state senate candidate happens to be. And, it surely beats surrender and despair.

I like the way you think and I agree with your conclusions .
Seems every stereotype is exactly the opposite.
It was FDR who used census data to intern loyal Japanese americans during WW2. How racist was that? No such policy was used against Germans!

Democratic Party in its platform appears to deny the ice age, by claiming humans cause global warming by burning fossil fuels .
But not all humans ! Obamas plane burns 5 gal per mile and reportedly burns 5000 gals just to take off. 10,000 mile trip uses 55,000 gal of jet fuel. But he believes you should drive a little crappy shoe box car. Just to make sure democrats will keep fuel prices as high as their legislation can accomplish.
Billionaire democrats private planes or Kerry's huge ship is no problem either

On and on every issue that effects the little guy democrats are on the wrong side .
Yet the propaganda against republicans is so complete and persuasive we have lost California and a few larger states.

We need to blame easily led easily propagandized libertarians, A rated NRA Ken Cucchnelli will lose to f rated Terry ( the punk ) Mccaliff
Libertarians have 9% in that race for governor of Virginia .

As a certified intructor I would rather teach democrats for free than a paying libertarian !
A democrat can change his views if enough info is brought forward. Libertarians brains are so flushed with a religious fervor, they are immune to ever voting RKBA .

[pastureofmuppets]

Libertarians brains are so flushed with a religious fervor, they are immune to ever voting RKBA .

http://www.lp.org/issues/gun-laws

[pastureofmuppets]

Would it be fair to say the majority of Californians are socially progressive and fiscally conservative as far as they pay attention to politics?

I would say that goes some way towards the Republicans issues. If that's correct, then people are voting rights over money in everything but 2A.

Frankly, the Democrats are winning a propaganda war on that front that the people that get it can ultimately only fight with pressure and ultimately in court.

[NOTABIKER]

too many minorities in California; they'll always go Dem because that's where the goodies are. One guy at work voted for Obama because he wants his 6 year old son to go to college for free. They love that free health care too.

More and more all the time, not just Hispanics, but Eastern European, Indian, Persian, Asian, if any of them vote Republican they're traitors to their own people.

this is our future . and the dems know all they have to do is play the race card. it always works.the dems do not give a bleep about these people they are just pawns for them to increase their power.

[SemperFi1775]

too many minorities in California; they'll always go Dem because that's where the goodies are. One guy at work voted for Obama because he wants his 6 year old son to go to college for free. They love that free health care too.

More and more all the time, not just Hispanics, but Eastern European, Indian, Persian, Asian, if any of them vote Republican they're traitors to their own people.

didn't more than 80% of asians voted for barack during the last 2 elections?

[hardlyworking]

People who ... understands science.

As a scientist I have a problem with this. I think Dems use "scientific" language but no, they absolutely do not use, or even understand science. In science you design an experiment, yes you may have an idea of the outcome (your hypothesis) but you accept whatever the results may be. Democrat's policy making is just the opposite. They want to control the outcome no matter what the experiment leads to... generally by spending your money but sometimes merely by distorting the truth. See hunting, lead-ammo ban.

Prosperity not welfare
Opportunity not entitlement
Low Taxes, Small Government, Free Markets
Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Religious Freedom

We can sell these.

I agree, and The "New and Improved" Republican party needs to stay away (publicly) from the things they are against: Abortion, "Protection" of Marriage. Just stop. talking. about. that. stuff! If you want to court the evangelicals, you only need to be less-repulsive than the democrats, who else are they going to vote for?

[TakCWAL]

More and more all the time, not just Hispanics, but Eastern European, Indian, Persian, Asian, if any of them vote Republican they're traitors to their own people.

Not quite.

Actually, not even. Asian Americans tend to be divided on both sides since the Dems' many policies actually work against them. That, and they have a healthy hatred for welfare recipients. Don't want to sound racist, but here it is.

[dustoff31]

Would it be fair to say the majority of Californians are socially progressive and fiscally conservative as far as they pay attention to politics?

While that's true of many, I don't it is fair to say that of the majority. The fact is, that the majority are socially progressive and fiscally liberal, especially when it's other people's money.

[njineermike]

While that's true of many, I don't it is fair to say that of the majority. The fact is, that the majority are socially progressive and fiscally liberal, especially when it's other people's money.

The fact that the voters decided to raise taxes retroactively should a HUGE red flag.

[ChrisC]

The Republican party is dead in California - Ronald Reagan signed its death warrant when he signed the 1986 amnesty bill and legalized millions of poor illegals who wanted government freebies and welfare more than freedom to own guns.

And yet people keep putting Reagan on a pedestal and considering him one of the greats. How easily people forget the true history of a person and what htey did to this state and our country.

[x-007]

The State of California has become a "bastion" for the Democrats/liberal leftists. They've been very effective in solidly planting THEIR agendas here, and rely upon the unions, the mostly Democrat "immigrants", the biased educational system that continues to indoctrinate our children, the gullibility of the "Hollywood"/celebrity/extremely wealthy sets, and of course, the almost total domination of our legislature. Their agenda does NOT include lowering ANY of the taxes, nor spending less money or even trying to lessen the burden of the "recipient class" on our economy. It's tax, spend, increase social programs, support the big unions....then increase the taxes again so that they can spend more. They're not interested in lowering the taxes, so that the "base" of tax payers would increase. And, in NO way are they "business-friendly", which has already caused many big businesses to move out.

Also, I think that this current "regime" (actually, just a retread of the "old" Jerry Brown administration of 1975-1983) has it in the back of its mind that the federal government will bail out California if necessary....if they can't raise even MORE tax revenues from the ever-decreasing "base" of tax payers.