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NJ Gov Christie vetoes gun control bills
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Your problem is that we realize your party offers us nothing and you can't even provide evidence that the Republicans will provide better government than the Democrats. Whine all you want about how your unConstitutional choices are rated but you've got no history of facts which show they will do anything to actually help us. This recent adoration for Christie is just another example of your shilling for anything with an 'R' after its name.
People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
--River TamComment
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Well, if you don't like the options you can sit out. Hopefully more Democrats 'sit out' otherwise that means Hillary will win. Or you can vote 3rd party, in which case it's a vote for Hillary. Or you can vote Christie in which case may still lose but at least you tried to defeat Hillary.
Honestly I don't think Christie will get the nomination. They'll nominate someone who lost the last time around and a Hillary win will be practically guaranteed.
We are watching this country turn to Leftism and Socialism and this thread is why. Christie, a governor of a rather left-wing, firmly Democrat state, does something halfway decent for gun owners (ie, vetoes some bad bills) and people pounce all over him because he's not a Southern Rightwing type.Comment
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Your problem is that we realize your party offers us nothing and you can't even provide evidence that the Republicans will provide better government than the Democrats. Whine all you want about how your unConstitutional choices are rated but you've got no history of facts which show they will do anything to actually help us. This recent adoration for Christie is just another example of your shilling for anything with an 'R' after its name.Comment
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That appears to be a popular insult to attempt to make folks vote for your preference but it still doesn't matter. If you want people to vote for your party's candidate provide a candidate that is worth voting for.
Many voters sit out the election because there is no one worth voting FOR and they can't see the point of voting against.
There are also a lot of us who vote 3rd party and have for decades.
Insult and make yourself feel superior, but if you want me to vote with you give me good reason.People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
--River TamComment
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Why are we spending so much money to fight the Taliban in Afganistan when we have the republican Taliban party in the USA?
but the alternative is the party for losers in life...the Democrats for the socialist united states....I'd be pulling my hair out, but I don't have any left.I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.Comment
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Well, if you don't like the options you can sit out. Hopefully more Democrats 'sit out' otherwise that means Hillary will win. Or you can vote 3rd party, in which case it's a vote for Hillary. Or you can vote Christie in which case may still lose but at least you tried to defeat Hillary.
Honestly I don't think Christie will get the nomination. They'll nominate someone who lost the last time around and a Hillary win will be practically guaranteed.
We are watching this country turn to Leftism and Socialism and this thread is why. Christie, a governor of a rather left-wing, firmly Democrat state, does something halfway decent for gun owners (ie, vetoes some bad bills) and people pounce all over him because he's not a Southern Rightwing type.LetsGoBrandon
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this IS a depressing threadsigpicComment
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With all respect, if your not a republican you have no business calling a republican a RINO ! You libertarians or democrats should use something classy like POS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_In_Name_Only
Only thing good about CC is he told the unions to pound sand. Vetoing some bills just trying to curry favor really. But between CC and Hillary, that can be a hold your nose and vote for the lessor of evils. Hillary would be way worse than Obama in my book.^^^The above is just an opinion.
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Yep, if you think the earth wasn't built in 6 days than you are one with the devil. soon the party will ask for biology to be scaled back in public schools...oh wait, they don't want public schools because the kids will learn through vouchers and a thousand points of light..
Why are we spending so much money to fight the Taliban in Afganistan when we have the republican Taliban party in the USA?
but the alternative is the party for losers in life...the Democrats for the socialist united states....I'd be pulling my hair out, but I don't have any left.
Will you kindly provide a link or reference?
The Republican Party does believe competition in education by way of vouchers is a workable solution to the forced govt school agenda. Republicans believe parents should have choices of how their children are educated .
We believe a child born into a non wealthy household should have an opportunity to attend a religious or private school if the parents or parent wants it.
What is your opposition to vouchers ?
When Bush 41 mentioned 1000 points of light, we republicans did not know what he was talking about and dismissed it. It obviously has some meaning to you.
As a member if the Republican Party, I am confused with your reference to the republicans being like the Taliban.
Since our party platform has gun rights strongly protected, with out regard to religion or ethnicity .
Would you kindly give me a few examples in order that republicans can address your concerns ?Last edited by ja308; 08-19-2013, 9:02 AM.Comment
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CCs vetoes will provide political cover for Brown, should be also veto a couple of the worst bills.Comment
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Well, moonbeam aint gonna veto sh!#. So don't get too happy (unless you're planning to move to NJ).Here's my iTrader feedback: (iTrader score is 244. I have ZERO negative feedback) https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...user-l-a-saigaComment
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As much as some of the "intellectuals" here want to get into discussions of whether Christie is throwing us a bone or not and therefore should still not vote for him, let me ask you this.
Will Christie appoint better judges than Hillary?
Does Christie work for the party who actively campaigns against guns and has it as part of their party platform?
Do you really think that by sitting on the sidelines, writing in your favorite "constitutional conservative" on the ballot, or just *****ing on CalGuns that a vote for Christie isn't going to bring any rights back is going to help keep your guns?
Is Christie going to re-open the machine gun registry via the treasury dept and repeal the NFA? Hell No. But he will at LEAST have support of a party who a vast majority of the representatives believe in the RKBA. That is the key difference.
If you are going to work against any R that has a chance at being elected you are worse than the Brady Campaign as you are sabotaging our chances from within. 4 years of Hillary would be hell on earth for gun owners. 4 years of slanted press and the anti-gun side feeling empowered, potentially gaining permanent sustained traction.
Going with Christie I can see a lot of gun stuff moving to the "way back burner" as the reeps that are under him in Congress and Senate aren't going to let that happen.
Feel free to cite this post in the future.just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.
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