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  • anthonyca
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 6316

    Getting Antis and Fence Sitters to See Assualted

    I watched assaulted in San Francisco with a friend. One thing I noticed, and I already knew this would be the case, everyone there was a big time gun rights supporter. As we walked out I asked my friend what he thought and I knew what he was going to say. He said that he already knew about everything in the movie but the movie was done very well and he was glad to see it. In fact, the only thing I learned was what Bobbie Ross looked like. I already knew she rocked and set up the much needed 2nd amendment rights coalition in the BAR association. It was probably the same for almost everyone there.

    The movie was a little heavy on emotional explanations and didn't go heavily into hard statistics, which is good for an entertaining movie. The only problem is we are still preaching to the choir.

    This movie would be great for high-school or college classes to see. It could be used for debate, civics, law, history etc. The bottom line is we need fence sitters to see this powerful and well produced movie.

    Even having antis see it is valuable, after all bad publicity can often be better than no publicity.

    What are some ways to get more people to see the movie?
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

    Originally posted by Wherryj
    I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?
  • #2
    BigPimping
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2010
    • 21392

    Issue it on Dvd, Netflix and REDBOX. A lot of us could not see it because we have to work.
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    • #3
      NoJoke
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 1538

      I told my 15.5 year old daughter she's probably seeing a very historical movie because the 2a here is either (IMO);

      -going to be laid to rest once and for all in CA or

      -be a wake up call to really get the momentum going.

      That might be a good line to get either a pro 2a or an anti's to show up - could swing either way so it would attract both sides of the aisle.

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      • #4
        1681
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 677

        i'd like to see it on DVD and eventually utube.

        here's a decent review:

        Gun control is not about public safety. It's about power and wealth control.

        Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Lord Acton

        I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson

        There's only one real party in America. It's called the Capitalist Party, and you ain't invited.

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        • #5
          bigdawg86
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 3554

          Originally posted by BigPimping
          Issue it on Dvd, Netflix and REDBOX. A lot of us could not see it because we have to work.
          THIS! Twelve hour shifts suck.

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          • #6
            4DSJW
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2009
            • 736

            Originally posted by anthonyca
            ... The movie was a little heavy on emotional explanations and didn't go heavily into hard statistics, which is good for an entertaining movie. The only problem is we are still preaching to the choir.

            This movie would be great for high-school or college classes to see. It could be used for debate, civics, law, history etc. The bottom line is we need fence sitters to see this powerful and well produced movie.

            Even having antis see it is valuable, after all bad publicity can often be better than no publicity.

            What are some ways to get more people to see the movie?
            Anthonyca, sadly I don't think that this movie will go into broader release and reach a bigger audience. If we can't even get more than a handful of CG's to go see it over a four day period then I think we are done. The movie is good as a documentary about the history of gun control in the U.S. but it does not do a good job of showing the average joe, fence-sitter, moderately anti-gun person how they may have any skin in the game, now or because of some future events.

            Unfortunately, it seems that the majority of people are more motivated by their own self-interest than they are in doing the "right" thing, in this case respecting the second amendment. If that is truly the case then the movie has to show those people why they SHOULD care about gun control issues for there own good, not because "caring" is the right thing to do.

            I think that if the movie had started with the information that U.S. courts have repeatedly ruled that Law Enforcement has NO DUTY TO PROTECT an individual, along the commonly used "when seconds count the police are only minutes away" meme. Followed (repeatedly) by, "criminals DO NOT obey laws so only the law abiding are disarmed and defenseless", then there would likely be a much broader audience that would recognize a point of self-interest.

            I had very high hopes for this movie and donated to it twice, I'm not at all sorry that I did. I bought tickets for myself and five friends the very first day they were available, hoping we would help "fill" the theater, I'm not sorry that I did that either. I drove over an hour in traffic to get to the theater and an hour to get home, as did my friends, not a bit sorry that I put in the effort.

            What I do feel bad about is that out of all the whiners and complainers on the CG forum, who do obviously have skin in the game, we can only get a hundred or so people to give up a couple of hours of their time, and $10 dollars of their hard-earned money over a four day period, to pack the theaters in the hope of getting this movie out there to potentially be seen by a larger group. As a group of gun owners and enthusiasts we should be embarrassed.

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            • #7
              jdberger
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Oct 2005
              • 8944

              Go see it again. Bring people with you. Set up another Tugg event. Bring friends (buy their tickets for them). Buy out a block of seats. Donate them to your local NRA members council. Donate a couple tickets to our local politician.

              And then go see it again.
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              • #8
                2nd Mass
                Veteran Member
                • May 2013
                • 3212

                Only getting a few hundred calgunners? Many of us calgunners had to drive to different counties because local showings were already sold out! Even the Tustin showing we ended up at was almost packed. Sorry if the theater near some ended up with a light showing but everyone had the opportunity to personally promote this film, invite friends or give tickets as gifts.

                As for further promoting this film I believe the Tugg option is still open to those who want to put together additional showings. Remember this isn't just a 2A movie, it's a documentary about Civil Rights. I would think it's possible for fence sitters who are graphically reminded of the LA riots and Katrina will at least for a moment think about this issue a little differently. Plus hearing about the correlation between Gun Control and race would also illuminate many fence sitters.

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                • #9
                  nicki
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4208

                  Say it Sunday evening.

                  I made a special trip to see this film and sadly the theater was empty at a 5pm showing on a Sunday night in Antioch.

                  The theater did not have a "movie poster" outside like the rest of the films being shown, so the film was not getting the walk by promotion other films were getting.

                  This was the AMC at Deer Valley in Antioch.

                  For the budget they worked with, they put out a pretty good film. If they had 1 million dollars rather than 100K or so, there are many things the film could have gone deeper on.

                  I felt the film had many facts, but in all honesty, I felt the film could have used more emotion and here is my reasoning.

                  Facts appeal to our brains and get us thinking
                  Feelings appeal to our hearts and that gets us moving.

                  Right now gun owners spend too much time thinking about things and too little time actually doing something.

                  The fact that the film even got produced in itself is a victory because this shows that we do have enough people to "Kickstart" a project.

                  For all of those who donated to the film, thank you.

                  For all of you who didn't, now that you see the results, step up for the next project.

                  For those of you who want others to do all the work to protect your rights while you make excuses and refuse to do anything, I have a lot I could say, but I won't since this is a family friendly forum.

                  "Assaulted, Civil Rights under Fire" is a great start for our movies, it is not a perfect film, but it is a good film and right now what we need to do is get out more good films because this film only covered a fraction of gun related issues.

                  Nicki

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                  • #10
                    BRoss
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 73

                    Originally posted by anthonyca
                    In fact, the only thing I learned was what Bobbie Ross looked like. I already knew she rocked and set up the much needed 2nd amendment rights coalition in the BAR association.

                    Thanks!

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                    • #11
                      anthonyca
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2008
                      • 6316

                      Originally posted by BRoss
                      Thanks!
                      Thank you!
                      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                      Originally posted by Wherryj
                      I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                      • #12
                        1recluse
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 419

                        Assualted, is dealing with your fellow Gun Lover or Calgunner! Because guns are not any of our PRIMARY Requisite's in life. We gun owners can't agree to bypass our perceived requisite's to agree on our commons the 2nd A. We talk about the fence people but Gun Owners are way to polarized to make a difference today!

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                        • #13
                          anthonyca
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2008
                          • 6316

                          Originally posted by 1recluse
                          Assualted, is dealing with your fellow Gun Lover or Calgunner! Because guns are not any of our PRIMARY Requisite's in life. We gun owners can't agree to bypass our perceived requisite's to agree on our commons the 2nd A. We talk about the fence people but Gun Owners are way to polarized to make a difference today!
                          Unfortunately, this is true.
                          https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                          Originally posted by Wherryj
                          I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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