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  • WokMaster1
    Part time Emperor
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2006
    • 5436

    Interior Department would allow concealed guns in national parks

    Just got this in my email.





    Even if it passes, looks like we're SOL..
    "Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)
  • #2
    Diabolus
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 4706

    Good news... hope they allow guns just like the National Forest.

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    • #3
      zinfull
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2006
      • 2730

      What good news? The state parks are a no carry in CA so I must be missing something. You can not carry in CA parks so you can not carry in Nation parks in Ca. Plus it sounds that you need a CCW in order to carry. So much for the plain people.

      Jerry

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      • #4
        Paladin
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2005
        • 12382

        Originally posted by zinfull
        What good news? The state parks are a no carry in CA so I must be missing something. You can not carry in CA parks so you can not carry in Nation parks in Ca. Plus it sounds that you need a CCW in order to carry. So much for the plain people.

        Jerry
        Some people have previously expressed similar sentiments and wondered why other think this is good news. Here's two reasons:

        1) This proposed rule change means Californians w/UT or FL non-resident CCWs can carry when they visit fed parks in other states that both recognize those CCWs and allow CCWing in their state parks.

        2) I'm merely a resident of California, but I'm a citizen of the United States of America. The more parts of the USA that go "Shall Issue" or better (e.g., "Vermont Carry"), the better I like it. Similarly, the more areas w/in the USA where law-abiding citizens can carry, the better.
        240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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        • #5
          WokMaster1
          Part time Emperor
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2006
          • 5436

          Originally posted by Paladin
          Some people have previously expressed similar sentiments and wondered why other think this is good news. Here's two reasons:

          1) This proposed rule change means Californians w/UT or FL non-resident CCWs can carry when they visit fed parks in other states that both recognize those CCWs and allow CCWing in their state parks.

          2) I'm merely a resident of California, but I'm a citizen of the United States of America. The more parts of the USA that go "Shall Issue" or better (e.g., "Vermont Carry"), the better I like it. Similarly, the more areas w/in the USA where law-abiding citizens can carry, the better.
          I understand your point but the fact that I can't carry to protect myself when I go & enjoy the National parks in California is just a Duh!

          The language should change to say that anyone with a valid CCW permit can legally carry. Then i'll have a solid reason to smile. Otherwise, California is still a no-go state for everyone.
          "Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)

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          • #6
            nhanson
            Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 283

            This good for all even without a CCW

            Originally posted by WokMaster1
            I understand your point but the fact that I can't carry to protect myself when I go & enjoy the National parks in California is just a Duh!

            The language should change to say that anyone with a valid CCW permit can legally carry. Then i'll have a solid reason to smile. Otherwise, California is still a no-go state for everyone.
            In Ca, while you can not walk around the state park without a CCW: I think legal resident's can keep your firearm in your place of residence be it a RV or tent or what ever since it is your dwelling place. (PC 12026 trumps "rules")

            Current National Park rules don't allow that and if the change goes through, it would.

            There is benefit to even non CCW folks who reside in CA and as mentioned above, if you have a FL or UT non-resident you will benefit when outside a CA.

            Enjoy

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            • #7
              JeffCinSac
              Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 493

              People with CA CCW can carry concealed in CA state parks and, if this is finalized as-is, in CA national parks, as well.

              See: http://www.calccw.com/Forums/where-c...tate-park.html

              I'm seeing more and more FUD these days...

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              • #8
                RW Dunn
                Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 285

                Originally posted by zinfull
                What good news? The state parks are a no carry in CA so I must be missing something. You can not carry in CA parks so you can not carry in Nation parks in Ca. Plus it sounds that you need a CCW in order to carry. So much for the plain people.

                Jerry
                I would rather be judged buy 12,then me or a family member be carried by 6. Out in the hills,there's no phone reception and a Mt.lion or a 2 legged predator can strike with in seconds and do with me what want after that, along as my family is safe.........This is in no way a encouragement to break a state or federal laws,but how much doe's that wife,little boy or girl mean to you and i won't- scratch that i wouldn't want to live after hearing their pleas for help and not to be able to do anything.

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                • #9
                  WokMaster1
                  Part time Emperor
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 5436

                  Originally posted by JeffCinSac
                  People with CA CCW can carry concealed in CA state parks and, if this is finalized as-is, in CA national parks, as well.

                  See: http://www.calccw.com/Forums/where-c...tate-park.html

                  I'm seeing more and more FUD these days...
                  Jeff, can please elaborate on that statement? I'm here to learn. If you know something I don't, please teach me. I think we can both walk away feeling better.

                  I am refering to California's National Parks. Anything outside California is a non issue as most states accept Utah & FL CCWs.

                  It would be fine & dandy if a Cal resident has a Cal CCW permit. I'm sure we can both agree that CCWs are not readily available unless one lives in a "shall issue" county. So let's just speak for the majority of us who don't & can't get one.

                  Utah & FL CCWs are easy to get if one meets their requirement but California does not recognise anything but California issued permits.

                  Overall, yes, I agree that it helps protect the American public. But how does this benefit a Cal resident (with no CCW) who wants to visit Yosemite NP?
                  "Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)

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