$10,000 fine for no insurance

[vonderplatz]

$10k penalty for owning a gun without this proposed insurance, but 0bamacare will only charge you $695 per person to $2,085 per family in 2016, when fully phased in, if you fail to get medical insurance. Makes perfect sense to me...

ObamaCare requires health care insurance and SCOTUS approved, so it looks like it's constitutional.

[RobinGoodfellow]

This is correct.

Aside from the fact that no insurance will write a policy for willful acts (as most of the proposed bills seem to insist), there is another issue with requiring insurance.

Many people say that the entire field of medical malpractice has evolved because there is so much insurance money to make it a profitable field. If gun owners are all wandering around with millions of dollars in "easy money", there will be zero chance that any issue surrounding a firearm doesn't end up in court.

As it is now too many families of criminals will sue the victim of the crime for protecting himself/herself, but many lawyers won't take the case if there's nothing to collect. Imagine if EVERY case had a huge pot of gold at the end of the shakedown...'er I mean rainbow.

Florida allows a doctor not to carry medical malpractice insurance if he maintains a cash fund (it's something like $250,000) to pay claims. My uncle is a dentist and he does this.

He got called by lawyer once, who claimed to represent a patient with a medical malpractice claim. The lawyer asked for the name of my uncle's malpractice insurance company. "I don't carry malpractice insurance--I'm self-insured." Click. Never heard from the attorney or the patient again.

[waffmaster]

Another politician trying to make her name remembered by forcing their Utopias on us.

[POLICESTATE]

It's only a question of time before the democrats, the progressives that drive them, the socialists that drive the progressives, and the communists that drive the socialists control the house and the senate. Not saying it could be 2014, or even 2016, but at some point it will happen.

The kind of stuff they are doing now are the things they feel they can win now, Obamacare, so-called Immigration Reform, the increased Gun Control they are working on now. Just wait until they have no opposition, you will see some crazy **** then and make no mistake about it.

Notwithstanding whether they are successful or not, but they will try.

[captainsavaho]

This will be imposed on firearms purchased on or after the bill becomes a law, right?

[whirlybird]

1) The SCOTUS decision to uphold a government mandate was a bad idea, and here is a potential manifestation.

2) Requiring insurance for a fundamental right discriminates against less affluent persons and restricts their ability to exercise said rights.

3) "Shifting the cost of gun violence to back to the owners of weapons" is based on misinformation and is essentially emotional extortion.

The cost of gun violence? What's the stat that everyone hears? 30,000 injuries and 8,000 deaths, give or take? I imagine if you only listen to the evening news it's pretty easy to assume that each one of those statistics took place in a mall, a movie theater, or a school. The truth is that mass shootings are a serious minority of this statistic and I'm pretty sure an insurance company is going to underwrite the policy so they don't have to pay out for any unlawful use of insured weapons. So that won't help to shift any cost there.

So what are the rest of these gun incidents? Gang related and drug related incidents? I doubt those gun owners will be insuring their guns.

What's left? Police. That's right, included in these statistics, are the police officers using their guns in the line of duty to protect themselves and you and me. Where do you think the cost of insuring literally millions of firearms is going to fall? On the taxpayer. So even if you don't own a gun, you're still paying insurance for firearms.

Who are the winners of this legislation? Insurance companies. The losers? All of us. I'd be interested in seeing who wrote this legislation and with what help they wrote it with.

[colossians323]

How about a $10,000 fine for anyone who fails to get

Free Speech insurance
Free Religion insurance
Free Press insurance

And so on and so forth.

Exactly, but amazingly enough it appears that the second is the only one that people are constantly squashing

[Hoooper]

This will be imposed on firearms purchased on or after the bill becomes a law, right?

doubtful

[Enfield47]

Exactly, but amazingly enough it appears that the second is the only one that people are constantly squashing

It's the easiest for them to demonize in their own demented way. They have been at it for about 30 years now and see an opportunity they can manipulate to their advantage. Once they virtually eliminate the 2nd, they will begin going after the others so no one can oppose them. We are truly swirling the toilet bowl right now.

[Wherryj]

How about voters insurance, so when the voters do something incredibly stupid (again) we get a check.

Having been born in CA, I'd be rich enough to retire by now.

[Hoooper]

Having been born in CA, I'd be rich enough to retire by now.

haha, same. I would have money pouring out of my ears to the point of making B. Gates blush