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Is it illegal to have a bullet button tool attached to a rifle/shotgun?
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I think the consensus was you would probably be able to beat it unless the tool was stuck to the bullet button (i.e. mag magnet), but better to have the tool totally separate.
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there is no law that I know of I dont want to be the first case either .The DA could argue its part of the rifle and no longer a tool but part of the gun . ay advice just have a retractable tool on your wrist or neck . ill take the lil hassle over few months or more in court .Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764Comment
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Does it matter anymore? Everything's going to be illegal soon.Originally posted by Gwalker99
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I use those spiral plastic key-chain deals made to go around your wrist. Anyway, when I put my rifle in the safe, I just expand it to go around the stock or scope. I have one for each rifle. I use the Magpul plastic dummy rounds with a hole drilled through the base end as the actual tool. Works good.sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.Comment
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You would be violating the law as you would have a detachable magazine and features if you had a pistol grip. A tool ceases to be a tool when it is attached to a semiauto centerfire rifle in such a way that one can remove the magazine without use of another tool.
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I just ran a carbine class with a San Jose PD Lt holding the class was asked this very question. His answer was if it is attached to the gun in any way, it is illegal. If it is on your person (finger, pocket, lanyard attached to belt or neck, etc) then it is okay.Comment
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Here is my problem with the law as currently written: a bullet is considered a tool and it IS attached to the gun. Therefore I believe based on this it would be defensible if it was on a cord or attached in some way... BB magnet, etc attached to BB is obviously illegal tho.Comment
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Are you talking about the Bullet Button Wonder Tool? Having that attached while in California is not legal unless your rifle is featureless. Same would apply to any other tool that attaches to the rifle.Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
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A bullet in a mag attached to the gun can not also be used to release the mag. If it is removed from the gun it is no longer attached, right? the question isn't if the tool is legal, the question is if the tool can be used while attached to the gun. I think most would say not legal if attached. If you have the money and want to go to jail, try it. Other wise be smart, don't even tak a magnet to the range and don't attach you tool to your gun. My local range started to require chamber flags and they make a great tool for a BB.sigpic50BMGBOB aka 50BMGLAZARUS aka 50BMGZOMBIEBOB aka the UN- DEAD!Comment
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