Why We Will Lose...

[domino]

It is time for the people to rule the government rather than the government ruling us

[SwissFluCase]

It's a bit like eating an elephant. We need to break it into little pieces. We happen to be working on the tusks.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[uhlan1]

I seriously doubt more than a small majority have even bothered to contact their congresscritters to voice support for the 2A and urge that they vote in favor of freedom and the Constitution.

I think the OP's call for definitive action vs. keyboard bravado is spot on.

A lot of gun owners I know couldn't be bothered. Another has gone under a rock, marginalized. I noted last night Calgunners expressing apprehension about doing something as simple as the Ruger and S&W tools, comments ranging from getting on a government 'list" to afraid of getting a bunch of spam mail from said manufacturers.

100 million gun owners and less than 5 million belong to the NRA. I have seen many here scorn membership. How many have donated to the NRA or Calguns Foundation. How many feel it is hopeless so do nothing?
Sometimes I wonder who the sheep really are. the libs push a button and we panic, hoard or go to ground and wait for the hammer to fall..
Donate and call and write your reps. If you are in coastal lib districts, focus on the governor.
Be heard, make your views known, donate. Fight.

[retiredAFcop]

Retired cop - I agree with all that you said.

Thank you.

There's healthy caution/skepticism of government, and then there's "tinfoil hat " level paranoia.

[retiredAFcop]

you can contact your legislators till your blue in the face. We lost the fight here in Ca a long time ago. We now have a super majority in the capitol - how do you think this is going to play out? You think that we have pro 2A and pro gun rights liberals in the capitol? You think at the eleventh hour they're going to do the right thing and give us all our rights we deserve?

I'm all for fighting back, and writing and contributing $$ - but the harsh reality is Ca is a lost cause. SFO and LA are way too full of idiots. God bless those that are staying to fight - but for me I've been reading the writing on the walls far too long...its time to get out of this POS state.

On the national level, you can contact a congressman or senator in another state, and ask that they represent you, because Boxer, DiFi, and your congresscritter refuse to do so.

I've taken that approach several times, and some are happy to hear from a "volunteer constituent" (especially if you offer to make a contribution to their campaign, or make sure you know you are contributing to a cause you share in common).

[zoid52]

you can contact your legislators till your blue in the face. We lost the fight here in Ca a long time ago. We now have a super majority in the capitol - how do you think this is going to play out? You think that we have pro 2A and pro gun rights liberals in the capitol? You think at the eleventh hour they're going to do the right thing and give us all our rights we deserve?

I'm all for fighting back, and writing and contributing $$ - but the harsh reality is Ca is a lost cause. SFO and LA are way too full of idiots. God bless those that are staying to fight - but for me I've been reading the writing on the walls far too long...its time to get out of this POS state.

That is the absolute truth- Im bailing out of this s**thole myself!!!

[morfeeis]

[bill_k_lopez]

Just like SB249 passed last year. Oh wait...

Regards,


SwissFluCase

No, just like:

a 10 day waiting period
a 1 in 30 rule
a handgun roster
a no open carry law
a no state wide accepted CCW law
an assault weapons law
a 10 round magazine limit
a no suppressors law
a mandatory FFL transaction for all gun sales law
city and county laws that are more restrictive than state laws

And for the record - sb249 was pulled from last years agenda, it wasn't ever voted on to be passed or not passed.

But you're right...sb249 getting pulled shows that "we got 'em where we want 'em" huh?

[bill_k_lopez]

On the national level, you can contact a congressman or senator in another sate, and ask that they represent you, because Boxer, DiFi, and your congresscritter refuse to do so.

I've taken that approach several times, and some are happy to hear from a "volunteer constituent" (especially if you offer to make a contribution to their campaign, or make sure you know you are contributing to a cause you share in common).

Thank you for contacting me about your concerns regarding stronger gun laws, including a federal ban on assault weapons. As you know, this is a widely debated issue, and I am glad that you contacted me to voice your opinion.

As a member of the Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, I believe that Congress must pass bipartisan, comprehensive, and evidence-based legislation to deal with the recent tragedies of gun violence in our country.

I have always been a firm proponent of our nation's Second Amendment, and will always support the right of Americans to own guns for self-defense, hunting, and recreational use. However, I do not believe that the right to bear arms extends to any weapon that is manufactured, and it is my opinion that some weapons have no legitimate purpose outside of military applications.

The safety and well-being of my constituents is my top priority. As we saw in Aurora and Newtown, some guns and high capacity magazines present a grave threat to public safety. I believe that common-sense reforms to regulate the sale of such firearms are necessary to protect the public and our children. Because I believe that limits on certain types of weapons is not a panacea, I believe that we must also address issues relating to background checks for those wishing to purchase firearms and that we must provide increased access to mental health services as part of a long-term, all-encompassing solution to the epidemic of gun violence.

Again, thank you for contacting me; rest assured that I will keep your views in mind as these important issues are debated in Congress. Please stay in touch and if I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to email me through my website at www.lowenthal.house.gov or contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 225-7294.

Sincerely,

Alan S. Lowenthal
Member of Congress

You see - Mr Lowenthal (like the rest of his ilk) doesn't care what his constituents think, he only cares about HIS opinions.

But according to retiredAFcop, I should feel warm and fuzzy because after all - Mr Lowenthal did say "rest assured that I will keep your views in mind as these important issues are debated in Congress"

[SwissFluCase]

No, just like:

a 10 day waiting period
a 1 in 30 rule
a handgun roster
a no open carry law
a no state wide accepted CCW law
an assault weapons law
a 10 round magazine limit
a no suppressors law
a mandatory FFL transaction for all gun sales law
city and county laws that are more restrictive than state laws

And for the record - sb249 was pulled from last years agenda, it wasn't ever voted on to be passed or not passed.

But you're right...sb249 getting pulled shows that "we got 'em where we want 'em" huh?

We didn't get these laws because of people like them, we got them because of people who rolled over and surrendered.

SB249 got pulled because the opposition was swift and overwhelming.

Seriously, every defeatist coward needs to to see who is responsible for the loss of our rights. Go right now and look in the bathroom mirror for a few minutes.

Quit your whining and fight. Don't display cowardice in the face of the enemy, and don't cut and run. If this was a real war you would be shot at dawn.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[retiredAFcop]

Thank you for contacting me about your concerns regarding stronger gun laws, including a federal ban on assault weapons. As you know, this is a widely debated issue, and I am glad that you contacted me to voice your opinion.

As a member of the Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, I believe that Congress must pass bipartisan, comprehensive, and evidence-based legislation to deal with the recent tragedies of gun violence in our country.

I have always been a firm proponent of our nation's Second Amendment, and will always support the right of Americans to own guns for self-defense, hunting, and recreational use. However, I do not believe that the right to bear arms extends to any weapon that is manufactured, and it is my opinion that some weapons have no legitimate purpose outside of military applications.

The safety and well-being of my constituents is my top priority. As we saw in Aurora and Newtown, some guns and high capacity magazines present a grave threat to public safety. I believe that common-sense reforms to regulate the sale of such firearms are necessary to protect the public and our children. Because I believe that limits on certain types of weapons is not a panacea, I believe that we must also address issues relating to background checks for those wishing to purchase firearms and that we must provide increased access to mental health services as part of a long-term, all-encompassing solution to the epidemic of gun violence.

Again, thank you for contacting me; rest assured that I will keep your views in mind as these important issues are debated in Congress. Please stay in touch and if I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to email me through my website at www.lowenthal.house.gov or contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 225-7294.

Sincerely,

Alan S. Lowenthal
Member of Congress

You see - Mr Lowenthal (like the rest of his ilk) doesn't care what his constituents think, he only cares about HIS opinions.

But according to retiredAFcop, I should feel warm and fuzzy because after all - Mr Lowenthal did say "rest assured that I will keep your views in mind as these important issues are debated in Congress"

Since I know that many of our CA legislators won't care, I made this suggestion - quoted in your post attacking me.

It seems that your reading comprehension skills are just as bad as Mr. Lowenthal's.

On the national level, you can contact a congressman or senator in another state, and ask that they represent you, because Boxer, DiFi, and your congresscritter refuse to do so.

I've taken that approach several times, and some are happy to hear from a "volunteer constituent" (especially if you offer to make a contribution to their campaign, or make sure you know you are contributing to a cause you share in common).

[SwissFluCase]

retiredAFcop, that is 100% correct. Also, it is entirely valid to contact all of the members of a committee that is considering a bill, even if your aren't their direct constituent.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[Zer0]

Send it when Ruger 1st came out with letterhead , also vvvvvvvvvv

[Gudguy]

As long as "WE" the people believe they should be ruled by their betters, whether an elite of blood, or of books or of whatever else gives people a puffed-up sense of importance. If you continue to move away from a self-governing people and keep electing Politicians who believe they know better than you and allow them to make decisions for you. Guaranteed. YOU WIL LOSE!