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  • atascadero
    Member
    • May 2006
    • 201

    Why We Will Lose...

    People doing feel good online posts. Please redirect your actions to letters, phone calls, money donations to NRA, GOA, GOC, etc.
  • #2
    Packy14
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 5312

    what was the point of this post. Do it yourself, the rest of us already have been.
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    • #3
      badicedog
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3157

      Well said kenshinoro2007. We have no time for negativity here. Either contribute positive ideas, suggestions and most importantly actions or just STFU....
      "Americans used to roar like lions for liberty;now we bleat like sheep for security."

      ~ Norman Vincent Peale

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      • #4
        dc2integra
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 912

        We have alot of people on here who indeed have taken action we have a strong group of people here on cal guns I havent lost hope that we will defeat all these BS bills that are getting trown at us.

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        • #5
          victor1echo
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 1155

          You didnt even say why we will lose.

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          • #6
            cmichini
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 1739

            Originally posted by kenshinoro2007
            what was the point of this post. Do it yourself, the rest of us already have been.
            I seriously doubt more than a small majority have even bothered to contact their congresscritters to voice support for the 2A and urge that they vote in favor of freedom and the Constitution.

            I think the OP's call for definitive action vs. keyboard bravado is spot on.
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            • #7
              tenpercentfirearms
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Apr 2005
              • 13007

              Originally posted by cmichini
              I seriously doubt more than a small majority have even bothered to contact their congresscritters to voice support for the 2A and urge that they vote in favor of freedom and the Constitution.

              I think the OP's call for definitive action vs. keyboard bravado is spot on.
              First, there are no bills going through right now. So contacting your congress critters or legislators is pre-mature.

              Second, most of your representatives already have their minds made up. There are only going to be a few districts where this is going to actually matter. For example I live in Kern County. If any of my representatives vote for gun control, they are done. They might even be recalled immediately or worse. They know this and so contacting them is pointless because they already know where they live and who votes for them. Their vote is guaranteed for our side.

              Really the only thing you should do right now is make sure you are in the NRA. Yes the SAF, GOA, CRPA, and some others might be deserving of your support, but the NRA is the organization that is the largest and your mere $35 shows something important: solidarity. You can argue about their effectiveness, but again, one thing is important right now. Having a lobbyist organization that has as many members as possible in it when they go knocking on your representatives door.

              Understand we are completely outnumbered in this state. We might lose a legislative battle here. We must fight guerrilla warfare. We stopped SB249 last year. That was a gigantic win for us. We have an uphill battle ahead of us, but we have victories.

              We have court cases pending and that might be our best hope for victory.

              Just be patient and be ready to take action. Go shooting today. Spend a little of your ammo stash and go enjoy life. Remember why you have firearms and enjoy them. And realize even if they pass these laws, you do not have to comply. You might finally get to practice what you preach.

              However, we have plenty to do before then to stop this and it must be done correctly. Right now the anti-gunners are just posturing. Let them. They have a lot of work to do to beat us. Just relax and get ready. We know we will prevail.
              www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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              • #8
                WinstonMonty
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 633

                ^best response I've heard yet.

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                • #9
                  taloft
                  Well used Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 2696

                  There is a time to beat the drums and a time to sharpen swords. Every man has to decide for themselves when to do each. IMHO, It's a bit early to break out the whet stones.


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                  "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something."--Plato

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                  • #10
                    NotEnufGarage
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 4832

                    Originally posted by atascadero
                    People doing feel good online posts. Please redirect your actions to letters, phone calls, money donations to NRA, GOA, GOC, etc.
                    I agree.
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                    • #11
                      Kinsel83
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 987

                      We will not lose. We can't afford to.

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                      • #12
                        nicoroshi
                        www.Buildyourownak.info
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3696

                        Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                        First, there are no bills going through right now. So contacting your congress critters or legislators is pre-mature.

                        Second, most of your representatives already have their minds made up. There are only going to be a few districts where this is going to actually matter. For example I live in Kern County. If any of my representatives vote for gun control, they are done. They might even be recalled immediately or worse. They know this and so contacting them is pointless because they already know where they live and who votes for them. Their vote is guaranteed for our side.

                        Really the only thing you should do right now is make sure you are in the NRA. Yes the SAF, GOA, CRPA, and some others might be deserving of your support, but the NRA is the organization that is the largest and your mere $35 shows something important: solidarity. You can argue about their effectiveness, but again, one thing is important right now. Having a lobbyist organization that has as many members as possible in it when they go knocking on your representatives door.

                        Understand we are completely outnumbered in this state. We might lose a legislative battle here. We must fight guerrilla warfare. We stopped SB249 last year. That was a gigantic win for us. We have an uphill battle ahead of us, but we have victories.

                        We have court cases pending and that might be our best hope for victory.

                        Just be patient and be ready to take action. Go shooting today. Spend a little of your ammo stash and go enjoy life. Remember why you have firearms and enjoy them. And realize even if they pass these laws, you do not have to comply. You might finally get to practice what you preach.

                        However, we have plenty to do before then to stop this and it must be done correctly. Right now the anti-gunners are just posturing. Let them. They have a lot of work to do to beat us. Just relax and get ready. We know we will prevail.
                        Well said Wes^^

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                        • #13
                          SwissFluCase
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1322

                          OP needs to lurk moar.

                          Regards,


                          SwissFluCase
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                          • #14
                            advocatusdiaboli
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5521

                            I am not optimistic if I look at only our numbers as our only strength. But I think we have more power than that and the collapse of the national calls for bans show we do. Only 3% of the colonists were in the Continental Army and only 10% actively supported the army. 40% supported the monarchy of King George. Yet the revolutionists still won. I don't think we'll win in California and will lose more ground, but we are winning nationally and that is important. Here I just hope we stem the tide or slow down its encroachment until my wife and I retire and leave.

                            It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.
                            -- Samuel Adams
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                            • #15
                              chris
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 19447

                              Originally posted by atascadero
                              People doing feel good online posts. Please redirect your actions to letters, phone calls, money donations to NRA, GOA, GOC, etc.
                              youve been a member here since 06 and now posting. yeah ok.
                              http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
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