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  • bwiese
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 27621

    CA DOJ finally says something about SlideFire stocks...

    While DOJ BoF will not give out opinions to folks querying legal status of guns, devices, and activities, their front woman did say SlideFire stocks were illegal devices:

    http://news.yahoo.com/add-ons-let-se...201305718.html

    Michelle Gregory, spokeswoman for the California Department of Justice, says
    bump stocks would be considered illegal "multi-burst trigger activators" under
    state law — although that interpretation has yet to be tested in court.
    Given articles like the one quoted, and relevant drama, please rest assured these are an easy conviction given broad wording of law.

    Do note SlideFire Solutions says, "Slide Fire has not been notified by any individual state that our products conflict with any state laws."

    Big dummy, that's not the way things work.

    I bring this up not only because they made the news, but because I think there's another round of noobs bringing these things in.

    Note that these are separately covered in law (vs. part of AW 'characterictic features') - and possession of the device (just like Hellfire devices) is illegal.
    Last edited by Librarian; 02-07-2013, 8:13 PM.

    Bill Wiese
    San Jose, CA

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  • #2
    Bigtwin
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 2639

    Thanks for the input Bwiese! Now the constant question from some folks may be answered!

    Yeah no more is this stock legal in Ca threads.
    NRA MEMBER

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    • #3
      mud99
      • Oct 2011
      • 1075

      Not only are they illegal, but they are expensive and pointless.

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      • #4
        gwgn02
        Banned
        • Sep 2011
        • 3397

        Belt loops next.

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        • #5
          L4D
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3053

          Bweise 1

          Noobs 0

          CA - still losing
          RIP iTrader: Feedback Profile for L4D

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          • #6
            kaligaran
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 4800

            Finally... at least they said SOMETHING.

            I disagree with them that it's a 'multi-burst trigger activator'. But my opinion doesn't matter one bit. Just glad I don't own one.

            Next they'll make bump-firing (without anything to assist) illegal too... I've seen some insane bump fire skills by friends back home. They had it down to a science. It was pretty impressive.

            I've never been able to successfully bump fire without using my belt loop.
            WTB: multiautomatic ghost gun with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Must include shoulder thing that goes up.
            Memberships/Affiliations: CERT, ARRL ARES, NRA Patron Member, HRC, CGN/CGSSA, Cal-FFL

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            • #7
              speleogist
              Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 211

              Michelle Gregory is probably one of those people that uses the phrase "assault clip."

              Why do we let these idiots dictate anything again?

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              • #8
                speleogist
                Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 211

                Michelle Gregory is probably one of those people that uses the phrase "assault clip."

                Why do we let these idiots dictate anything again?

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                • #9
                  gunsmith
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2004
                  • 2028

                  you can bump fire with a rubberband, poor mans machine gun, I saw an awesome youtube about it.
                  Hopefully they wont outlaw rubberbands.
                  However it does seem like a waste of money.
                  NRA Life Member

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                  • #10
                    L4D
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3053

                    I can waste ammo
                    Just as fast without bump firing.
                    RIP iTrader: Feedback Profile for L4D

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                    • #11
                      speleogist
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 211

                      Originally posted by gunsmith
                      you can bump fire with a rubberband, poor mans machine gun, I saw an awesome youtube about it.
                      Hopefully they wont outlaw rubberbands.
                      However it does seem like a waste of money.
                      Shoelaces are machine guns according to the ATF.

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                      • #12
                        stix213
                        AKA: Joe Censored
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 18998

                        I wonder if they came up with their legal opinion by first checking this site.

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                        • #13
                          bubbapug1
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7958

                          Originally posted by L4D
                          Bweise 1

                          Noobs 0

                          CA - still losing
                          I think after Bweise's stand on 80% lowers (he was POSITIVE they were illegal) the scorecard reads.

                          BWeise 1 (pump fire stock) -1 (80% lowers) = 0
                          I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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                          • #14
                            bwiese
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 27621

                            Originally posted by bubbapug1
                            I think after Bweise's stand on 80% lowers (he was POSITIVE they were illegal) ....
                            Sonny,

                            Adulthood requires some understanding of complexities and nuances etc. And reading is
                            fundamental.

                            My worries were pre-1/1/2007, before the advent of AB2728. I said that I felt there was some
                            judicial risk involved in these due to certain handwaving about Harrott vs growth of lists, etc.

                            Given the freezing of the lists when AB2728 that was no longer a concern.

                            I still do have significant concerns about cop (mis)behavior w/traffic stops and unmarked nonfactory
                            receivers - vs normal production-marked receivers. The idea that you're saving $50 or $120 or whatever
                            just doesn't resonate with me - work extra hours at Starbux or whatever you need to do to get thru the
                            day.

                            Next time you try to put words in my mouth please do it in front of my face.

                            Bill Wiese
                            San Jose, CA

                            CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                            No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are
                            to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
                            ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
                            employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                            legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              whlgun
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 3057

                              Thanks for the info!
                              Rights modified on a "need" basis, IS the root of tyranny
                              Its not the Bill of Needs. Its the Bill of RIGHTS

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