2013 CA AB 170 Bradford - AB-170 Assault weapons and .50 BMG rifles

[HiveDR.]

Who is going to pay for the inspectors to drive all around Ca.? Are they just going to show up without an appointment? This could cost the state a lot of money.

[mag360]

they are just pissed that the Office of Administrative Law or something like that said they couldnt ban corps from sharing their permit with all employees, costing the state precious $$$ in licensing *each* and *every* person working with the guns.

[franklinarmory]

This legislation is directly related to the fact that we won when we petitioned OAL. It is a DOJ coverup to clear up the matter since they were unwilling to follow their own written law.

I have great respect for law enforcement, but that does not include agencies that would seek to deprive my rights under the color of authority. Even if this passes (which it likely will,) this issue is not over. Agency administrators have intentionally used their office to illegally prevent my company from even applying for an AW license. They may believe that they are immune from prosecution or that their agency provides them some sort of personal liability coverage. However, I suspect their policies do not condone blatantly illegal acts that violate any entity's right to "due process."

...and yes, I'm sure DOJ staff will read this at some point. If you're a shot caller on this deal, shame on you for not following the law! We still are a Constitutional Democracy, right? You did swear an oath to defend that Constitution, right? Your day in Federal Court is coming.

[Dutch3]

It looks like AB 170 is on the Senate daily file for a third reading today. Item #57.

[sl0re10]

Hollywood can use airsoft and CGI. They don't need the real thing any more than the peasants do.

The studios have been testing the waters outside of California for a long time. Just means shoot more scenes out of state.

[MustangSteveGT]

Yet another special interest group of shooters (Hollywood gun handlers) who was all for this back when the orginal ban to us regular 'peons'. Guess what Hollywood, now they are coming after your goods too. Just like all the hunters who say, "What do you stupid kids need an AR15 for anyways?" Guess what elmer fudd, they're going after your sport as well with AB711.

AB170 is yet another example of how if the entire industry and population of gun owners IS united against ALL comprimise, that is the only way we maintain anything in the long run. Inch by inch, every window is closed one by one.

Next will be if SB 375 passes and exempts rimfire... "The government isnt after our guns, what did you need your semi auto magazine fed gun for anyways. All I ever needed was my cowboy guns and these rimfire hunting rifles."-say fence sitting closet turncoat gun owner U.S.A.

This is an issue in our country where if you are for our gun rights, you really need to pick sides because every little comprimise is leading to us losing everything. The slippery slope.

[chris]

Who is going to pay for the inspectors to drive all around Ca.? Are they just going to show up without an appointment? This could cost the state a lot of money.

They dont care its not their money.

[chris]

Yet another special interest group of shooters (Hollywood gun handlers) who was all for this back when the orginal ban to us regular 'peons'. Guess what Hollywood, now they are coming after your goods too. Just like all the hunters who say, "What do you stupid kids need an AR15 for anyways?" Guess what elmer fudd, they're going after your sport as well with AB711.

AB170 is yet another example of how if the entire industry and population of gun owners IS united against ALL comprimise, that is the only way we maintain anything in the long run. Inch by inch, every window is closed one by one.

Next will be if SB 375 passes and exempts rimfire... "The government isnt after our guns, what did you need your semi auto magazine fed gun for anyways. All I ever needed was my cowboy guns and these rimfire hunting rifles."-say fence sitting closet turncoat gun owner U.S.A.

This is an issue in our country where if you are for our gun rights, you really need to pick sides because every little comprimise is leading to us losing everything. The slippery slope.

I hunt and never ever supported any gun legislation that will ban one type of firearm and not another. Those hunters who do are idiots.

[MustangSteveGT]

I hunt and never ever supported any gun legislation that will ban one type of firearm and not another. Those hunters who do are idiots.

I apologize because I think my comment sounded too generalized but unfortunately I have encountered more than a few of this category of gun owner in my conversations with people since Sandy Hook.
It makes no sense to me because they identify as gun owners/hunters/sportsman but at the same time have a hatred for their own gun rights that allow them to do it.

Then again there's also people what stay in the U.S. and enjoy our living conditions and way of life but claim we would be better off as a socialist government. Even had a guy yesterday at work trying to convince me that we shouldnt even have the internet because people use the information to commit crimes. I tell the guy, "you've got to make the good with the bad." There really are a lot of people who would suffice to let the government have complete control because they buy the crap the media is putting out and the fear mongering of our own rights and liberties that us Americans. Guns, being one such right under fire.

[a1fabweld]

way to ruin the propmasters industry. Bye bye hollywood.

FK Hollywood & the liberal hypocrites. May they get exactly what they whished for. NO GUNS. I'd like to see how Rambo 7 turn out if "Sly" is packing a tactical baseball bat instead of a belt-fed.

[16 Bus Shelter]

Does this mean that if a corporation is an FFL in California that it won't be able to apply for an assault weapons license?

[MEDIC!]

way to ruin the propmasters industry. Bye bye hollywood.

I was the set medic on the first 2 seasons of Top Shot. ... They've long left. Too much BS here in CA. Not sure if the armorer for the show is still doing business in CA. I'm sure they won't be pleased by this though.

[guntrust]

would this have any impact on a gun trust?

With very few exceptions, a trust is not an entity but a relationship between individuals, so this law is very unlikely to affect gun trusts.

The only major exception i am aware of is the National Firearms Act, which treats trusts as entities. It is also possible that a statutory business trust or a trust drafted and used for attracting investment and apportioning economic benefit may be treated as an "association" but i think this would be rarely encountered, if ever. The typical gun trust is not used to organize a business and most businesses would organize as a corp or LLC.