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  • SilverTauron
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 5699

    Originally posted by navycorpsman
    Amen, If he signs a EO against gun owners. The dems will be demolished again in next elections
    Will you quit hogging the weed and pass it around?

    Its no secret that millions of guns have been sold since Obama took office in 2008. If people voted with their firearms in mind we'd be getting ready for a Romney Presidency. Yet Obama stands in office.

    It's logical to conclude that for most of the 90 million gun owners in America, their weapons are just a casual hobby with no political relevance to their voting choices. As such there won't be a backlash like there was in 1994, because there aren't as many gun owners who give a damn today.As long as the Legislature doesn't pass laws which ban Dad's break action 12 gauge, no ones going to lift a finger in opposition.

    No, the attraction for using EO is the time factor. Even if Feinsteins proposal flies through the Legislature it will be months before a bill will land on his desk, by which point our myopic electorate will have moved on to other issues like Fiscal Cliff 2.0 and who Kim Kardashians banging this week. Unless he acts while the Newtown tragedy is fresh in the public image, they risk losing their chance to advance the agenda. If Obama waits on the national Legislaure to pass a new law, public support will time out like a bad internet connection.
    The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
    The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
    -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

    The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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    • stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 18998

      Originally posted by ElvenSoul
      They tipped their hand to soon. White House is getting a whole lot of flack over the statement. Pissed off a lot of Congressional Members. Now O is sending Biden to talk to NRA to make peace.
      Interesting angle.... I wonder if it was another mistake on Biden's part to mention it at all. He always opens his mouth too early. People on the fence in congress (moderates in both parties) probably at least don't like the idea of Obummer going around Congress. That might give them some backbone to stand up to him.

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      • dieselpower
        Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 11471

        Originally posted by ElvenSoul
        They tipped their hand to soon. White House is getting a whole lot of flack over the statement. Pissed off a lot of Congressional Members. Now O is sending Biden to talk to NRA to make peace.

        LOL... no he is NOT. Biden is meeting with the NRA to start negotiations into what will be law. This isnt a peace offering olive branch.

        1) semi-auto ban, handgun, rifle and shotgun
        2) importation ban
        3) magazine capacity limits
        4) ammo stockpile limits
        5) background checks for ammo
        6) mandatory firearm safes
        7) mandatory waiting periods
        8) FFLs for all purchases, new and old, even family
        9) ammo sales limits, no more then X per month
        10) NATIONAL FIREARMS ID
        11) firearm transport restrictions
        12) firearm tax, ammo tax
        13) AW defined into GCA, tax stamp needed for defined semi-auto AW
        14) national firearm sales reporting
        15) national ammo sales reporting
        16) multiple firearm purchases ban / limits
        17) age limits for possession, use and access
        18) manufacturing regulations (more inspections audits)
        19) retail sales regulation (more inspections / audits)
        20) wider defended prohibited class to include family at same residence.

        This is what Biden wants, pick 10 and they will agree...laws / EOs to be passed and effective by 2/28/2013.

        This is what they are talking about

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        • fred40
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 1840

          Originally posted by dieselpower
          LOL... no he is NOT. Biden is meeting with the NRA to start negotiations into what will be law. This isnt a peace offering olive branch.

          1) semi-auto ban, handgun, rifle and shotgun
          2) importation ban
          3) magazine capacity limits
          4) ammo stockpile limits
          5) background checks for ammo
          6) mandatory firearm safes
          7) mandatory waiting periods
          8) FFLs for all purchases, new and old, even family
          9) ammo sales limits, no more then X per month
          10) NATIONAL FIREARMS ID
          11) firearm transport restrictions
          12) firearm tax, ammo tax
          13) AW defined into GCA, tax stamp needed for defined semi-auto AW
          14) national firearm sales reporting
          15) national ammo sales reporting
          16) multiple firearm purchases ban / limits
          17) age limits for possession, use and access
          18) manufacturing regulations (more inspections audits)
          19) retail sales regulation (more inspections / audits)
          20) wider defended prohibited class to include family at same residence.

          This is what Biden wants, pick 10 and they will agree...laws / EOs to be passed and effective by 2/28/2013.

          This is what they are talking about
          17 is the only one I see reasonable...accompanied by an adult only of course.

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          • SKSer
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 1716

            Originally posted by dieselpower
            LOL... no he is NOT. Biden is meeting with the NRA to start negotiations into what will be law. This isnt a peace offering olive branch.

            1) semi-auto ban, handgun, rifle and shotgun
            2) importation ban
            3) magazine capacity limits
            4) ammo stockpile limits
            5) background checks for ammo
            6) mandatory firearm safes
            7) mandatory waiting periods
            8) FFLs for all purchases, new and old, even family
            9) ammo sales limits, no more then X per month
            10) NATIONAL FIREARMS ID
            11) firearm transport restrictions
            12) firearm tax, ammo tax
            13) AW defined into GCA, tax stamp needed for defined semi-auto AW
            14) national firearm sales reporting
            15) national ammo sales reporting
            16) multiple firearm purchases ban / limits
            17) age limits for possession, use and access
            18) manufacturing regulations (more inspections audits)
            19) retail sales regulation (more inspections / audits)
            20) wider defended prohibited class to include family at same residence.

            This is what Biden wants, pick 10 and they will agree...laws / EOs to be passed and effective by 2/28/2013.

            This is what they are talking about
            did you get this info from somewhere?? Or is this a big list of what basically all the anti's collectively proposed? Also where did you get the date if not from the same source?

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            • ElvenSoul
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2008
              • 17431

              They are sending Holder to meet with NRA as well.

              I do not think they expected the NRA to gain so many new members.

              We are gaining momentum they are losing.
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              • tcrpe
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 10269

                Originally posted by A-J
                You're partly right. He's meeting with the NRA as a "courtesy" to tell them what the decision was, since he already met with the "stakeholders" composed entirely of people on the anti-gun side.

                Meeting is over.
                Originally posted by SilverTauron
                Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
                Originally posted by loose_electron
                PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.

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                • ENTHUSIAST
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4440

                  Way to stand your ground NRA nice job!!!
                  Originally posted by tcrpe
                  Meeting is over.


                  Statement From the National Rifle Association of America Regarding Today's White House Task Force Meeting

                  Posted on January 10, 2013

                  Fairfax, Va. – The National Rifle Association of America is made up of over 4 million moms and dads, daughters and sons, who are involved in the national conversation about how to prevent a tragedy like Newtown from ever happening again. We attended today's White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals.

                  We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works - and what does not

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                  • dieselpower
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11471

                    if what the release says is true...they didnt pick 10. That could be good as long as we keep up the social network pressure. the more people that hear the real truth the better off we are.

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                    • westcoastfrog
                      Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 463

                      Originally posted by noseyparker2u
                      Liberals are like Zombies, they just never stop!
                      Head shots?

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                      • Rossi357
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 1229

                        MSNBC on Biden's reprot.

                        I just saw on MSNBC that Biden's report will recommend background checks on all gun sales and assault weapon ban. Nothing about magazine capacity.
                        None of which would have stopped any mass shooting.
                        It remains to be seen how accurate the news report is.

                        Yes, I watch MSNBC and Fox and CNN.


                        Last edited by Rossi357; 01-11-2013, 12:18 PM.

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                        • newbee1111
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 536

                          I seriously doubt there was any negotiation going on during the meeting. The NRA has no reason to accept any restrictions at all. The administration just invited them to say that they brought everyone to the table.

                          The sad part is that something useful could actually be done here like make more resources available to help mentally ill people before they become a news item. Instead we are going to get an AWB bill that's going to die in committee (where it should because last time I checked pistol grips don't kill people).
                          SAF Life Member

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                          • Rossi357
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 1229

                            MSNBC on Biden's Report

                            MSNBC just reported that Biden will recommend background checks on all gun sales and a ban on assault weapons. No mention of magazine capacity.
                            None of which would stop any mass shooting.
                            The accuracy of the news report remains to be seen.


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                            • epilepticninja
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4166

                              We knew they were going after an "assault weapons" ban. Wait, I thought they were already illegal to own without a license? :P What happens after all these bans go into effect, and there are still shootings galore? Can we say "we told you so?" What is the media and the libtards going to do then, there won't be anyone left to blame?
                              Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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                              • Rossi357
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 1229

                                Originally posted by epilepticninja
                                We knew they were going after an "assault weapons" ban. Wait, I thought they were already illegal to own without a license? :P What happens after all these bans go into effect, and there are still shootings galore? Can we say "we told you so?" What is the media and the libtards going to do then, there won't be anyone left to blame?
                                The Federal ban expired.

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