Could a LEO legally use a firearm related sticker/logo on a bag or on your car as...

[Moonshine]

Heh just sharing the love! After all if DiFi's AW ban passes we'll all get to have these conversations in person in homeland security detention camps while they investigate all of our posts heh !!!

[1911_sfca]

No. But as stated above, thieves can use the sticker as probable cause to break into your vehicle and steal your firearm(s) or other valuables.

BTW, nice truck Kes!

[Cobrafreak]

Would I ever wear a t-shirt that says "I have a Concealed Carry Permit"? No. Bumper sticker, almost the same thing. Weigh in what good can come from it vs what bad. It's better to be stealthy.

[TransplantTexan]

IDEA: don't put a sticker on it and you'll never ha e to find out. MOST people don't know I own a gun. SOME people know I own a handgun to protect my family. ONLY MY CLOSEST FRIENDS know I own 10 guns including semi-auto rifles...

Some of my closest friends would call you a SLACKER, you need to go acquire/purchase a few more.

[edwardm]

This is an interesting case on point as far as containers go.

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca8/06-3593/063593p-2011-02-25.html

This is why I advise people to transport in cases that don't bear a logo, or which wouldn't pass the "single purpose" test, whenever possible.

As for stickers on the car to generate PC...meh. That's what I call a "fact creation" exercise, wherein the LEO engages in "Creating Facts" around whatever originally aroused suspicion in order to legitimize a claim of probable cause. I wouldn't put the invitation out, so to speak.

[Wiz-of-Awd]

"...as probable cause that there is a firearm in the vehicle..."

I would say to this, "So what?"
Carrying a gun in my car is not illegal, provided I am doing so in a legal manner.

Should these same LEO assume probable cause to search your vehicle for CD's or an iPod if you have music related stickers on your vehicle?

Perhaps I'm just being naive, but I'm not real sure of the concern or issue in this thread.

Anyway, as others have said, "No consent to search. Sorry LEO."

A.W.D.

[bwiese]

There is (Fed) case law out there I recall saying (roughly) that presence of a what is commonly called a 'gun case' is not sufficient probable cause for search.

[ronlglock]

ONLY MY CLOSEST FRIENDS know I own 10 guns including semi-auto rifles...

And a lot of Calgunners...

[edwardm]

Yeah, Don told me about that case a few years ago. It was an SBR or SBS prosecution, not the 8th circuit case I cited. But I think they still relied upon and upheld the "single purpose" container rule. I'll see if I can find it.

Edit: Actually it was a good discussion of why, on the pertinent facts of Gust, the single-purpose container exception was not met in that case.

There is (Fed) case law out there I recall saying (roughly) that presence of a what is commonly called a 'gun case' is not sufficient probable cause for search.

[Moonshine]

Heh just sharing the love! After all if DiFi's AW ban passes we'll all get to have these conversations in person in homeland security detention camps while they investigate all of our posts heh !!!

[Glock22Fan]

IDEA: don't put a sticker on it and you'll never ha e to find out. MOST people don't know I own a gun. SOME people know I own a handgun to protect my family. ONLY MY CLOSEST FRIENDS know I own 10 guns including semi-auto rifles...

Newbie are we?

LOL

[donw]

never consent to a search without a warrant and a supervisor present...

i go along with the stickers seem to attract un-wanted attention.

[artoaster]

Cops are constantly profiling everybody. Race, age, tattoos, bumper stickers, clothing, type of car, accessories and the list goes on.

Never consent to searches and don't answer questions you don't want to. Just at that point say "listen, I'm not going to answer any of your questions unless I have my lawyer present". Then ask if you are being detained and if you're free to go.

That should signal to them that you want to go on about your business.

I won't put any gun related stickers on my car nor any religious, political or controversial stuff either, not only because of police but people should practice driving not reading stuff on my bumper.

[edwardm]

There is (Fed) case law out there I recall saying (roughly) that presence of a what is commonly called a 'gun case' is not sufficient probable cause for search.

Here it is.

https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/405/405.F3d.797.04-30208.html

U.S. v Gust

Very good discussion of the single-purpose container exception, and relevant facts (hard plastic case with "BUSHMASTER" on it.

[CSACANNONEER]

IDEA: don't put a sticker on it and you'll never ha e to find out. MOST people don't know I own a gun. SOME people know I own a handgun to protect my family. ONLY MY CLOSEST FRIENDS know I own 10 guns including semi-auto rifles...

Great, that's what we need upstanding and responsible citizens who hide their gun ownership like he/she is ashamed to own firearms, doing something illegal and/or feels like he/she has to to be politically correct. Just think what this state would be like IF all the closet gun owners were a little more open in public. Maybe we could educate the under educated (when it comes to firearms) masses and let them learn that firearms much more common and mainsteam than some under educated antis want them to be. But, I guess there will always be those who are scared enough of the few outspoken antis to hide in the closet.